Anyone know where this Paganini Usenet server is?

Path..!fx10.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
...astraweb.com/

Stefan Claas

2024-08-11 22:24:37 UTC

Post by l***@vlvite.com
I'd like to sign up.
I did a search and all I came up with are forums where everyone is
bitching about it being the source of troublemakers. Same reputation
that dizum has held for years.
Where the hell is this paganini?

Hi,

Add to your Newsreader as server: paganini.bofh.team and as port 119.

I just set Thunderbird (under Windows 10) up with paganini and with
a .bat script to start tor.exe and socat.exe, prior starting thunderbird.

The .bat script looks like this:

@echo off

echo Starting Tor...
start "Tor" cmd /k "%~dp0tor\tor.exe"

timeout /t 10 /nobreak > nul

echo Starting Socat...
start "Socat" cmd /k "%~dp0socat.exe tcp4-listen:5870,fork
socks4a:127.0.0.1:paganini.bofh.team:119,socksport=9050"

echo.
echo Tor and Socat have been started in separate windows.
echo Please check the opened windows for details.
echo.
echo To stop the programs, simply close their respective windows.
echo.
pause

The .bat script is in the folder from a "tor-expert-bundle" download,
for Windows and socat.exe is in the same folder.

Hope this helps!

Regards
Stefan

Stefan Claas

2024-08-11 22:27:57 UTC

Post by Stefan Claas
echo Starting Socat...
start "Socat" cmd /k "%~dp0socat.exe tcp4-listen:5870,fork
socks4a:127.0.0.1:paganini.bofh.team:119,socksport=9050"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

These two lines are one line in my script.

--
Regards
Stefan

l***@vlvite.com

2024-08-11 22:54:55 UTC

Hi,
Add to your Newsreader as server: paganini.bofh.team and as port 119.
I just set Thunderbird (under Windows 10) up with paganini and with
a .bat script to start tor.exe and socat.exe, prior starting thunderbird.
@echo off
echo Starting Tor...
start "Tor" cmd /k "%~dp0tor\tor.exe"
timeout /t 10 /nobreak > nul
echo Starting Socat...
start "Socat" cmd /k "%~dp0socat.exe tcp4-listen:5870,fork
socks4a:127.0.0.1:paganini.bofh.team:119,socksport=9050"
echo.
echo Tor and Socat have been started in separate windows.
echo Please check the opened windows for details.
echo.
echo To stop the programs, simply close their respective windows.
echo.
pause
The .bat script is in the folder from a "tor-expert-bundle" download,
for Windows and socat.exe is in the same folder.
Hope this helps!
Regards
Stefan

You're scaring the hell outta this QSL dummy again, Stefan. I haven't
made a bat file since my DOS days before Windows. Windows finally
saved from all those Command line nosebleeds.

I'll see what I can do. :o(

Stefan Claas

2024-08-11 23:02:49 UTC

Post by l***@vlvite.com
You're scaring the hell outta this QSL dummy again, Stefan. I haven't
made a bat file since my DOS days before Windows. Windows finally
saved from all those Command line nosebleeds.
I'll see what I can do. :o(

Well, maybe there is an easier way to do this?!

I just saw in alt.test.test a posting from 'Anon' who
used Tor also and with an extra Tor-Router Header line.

Maybe someone here can tell us about this set-up and
if it is easier than mine. I am a bit out of the loop
when it comes to Tor usage and it's programs.

--
Regards and good night
Stefan

yeti

2024-08-12 00:07:34 UTC

Post by Stefan Claas
Well, maybe there is an easier way to do this?!

Has TB something like FF's "proxy.pac" config? Then it may be possible
to wire *.onion addresses (paganini has one) to tor's socks5 port.

I haven't touched TB for ages now...

For FF I use ...

------------------------------------------------------------------------
function FindProxyForURL(url,host)
{
if(dnsDomainIs(host,".i2p")) return "SOCKS5 localhost:4447";
if(dnsDomainIs(host,".onion")) return "SOCKS5 localhost:9050";
return "DIRECT";
}
------------------------------------------------------------------------

... and set network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to true.

| Similar things may or may not be doable with TB and...
\|/
V
--
1. Hitchhiker 25: (59) Scarcely pausing for breath, Vroomfondel shouted,
"We don't demand solid facts! What we demand is a total absence of solid
facts. I demand that I may or may not be Vroomfondel!"

Stefan Claas

2024-08-12 07:23:04 UTC

Post by yeti

Post by Stefan Claas
Well, maybe there is an easier way to do this?!

Has TB something like FF's "proxy.pac" config? Then it may be possible
to wire *.onion addresses (paganini has one) to tor's socks5 port.

I don't know, because I only used TB for this test, while I am not a TB
user.

Post by yeti
I haven't touched TB for ages now...
For FF I use ...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
function FindProxyForURL(url,host)
{
if(dnsDomainIs(host,".i2p")) return "SOCKS5 localhost:4447";
if(dnsDomainIs(host,".onion")) return "SOCKS5 localhost:9050";
return "DIRECT";
}
------------------------------------------------------------------------
... and set network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to true.
| Similar things may or may not be doable with TB and...
\|/
V
--
1. Hitchhiker 25: (59) Scarcely pausing for breath, Vroomfondel shouted,
"We don't demand solid facts! What we demand is a total absence of solid
facts. I demand that I may or may not be Vroomfondel!"

Thanks for the info.

--
Regards
Stefan

Anon

2024-08-11 22:46:00 UTC

Well, maybe there is an easier way to do this?!
I just saw in alt.test.test a posting from 'Anon' who
used Tor also and with an extra Tor-Router Header line.
Maybe someone here can tell us about this set-up and
if it is easier than mine. I am a bit out of the loop
when it comes to Tor usage and it's programs.

I'm using Tails in a VM. Easy as pi with Tor and Thunderbird built in.

Stefan Claas

2024-08-12 07:20:45 UTC

Post by Anon

Well, maybe there is an easier way to do this?!
I just saw in alt.test.test a posting from 'Anon' who
used Tor also and with an extra Tor-Router Header line.
Maybe someone here can tell us about this set-up and
if it is easier than mine. I am a bit out of the loop
when it comes to Tor usage and it's programs.

I'm using Tails in a VM. Easy as pi with Tor and Thunderbird built in.

Ah, ok. Thanks for the info.

--
Regards
Stefan

Yamn3 Remailer

2024-08-12 08:26:04 UTC

Why not simply use OmniMix with its Tor module as an NNTP proxy?

https://danner-net.de/omom/uimainconfignews.htm
https://danner-net.de/omom/tutorconfigclienttbirdnews.htm

And uncheck "Remailer message routing for News" at the Anon tab.

Stefan Claas

2024-08-12 10:25:03 UTC

Why not simply use OmniMix with its Tor module as an NNTP proxy?
https://danner-net.de/omom/uimainconfignews.htm
https://danner-net.de/omom/tutorconfigclienttbirdnews.htm
And uncheck "Remailer message routing for News" at the Anon tab.

I do not use Omnimix and the set-up was meant for QSL users, which
do not want to learn Omnimix.

--
Regards
Stefan

l***@vlvite.com

2024-08-12 13:21:18 UTC

Why not simply use OmniMix with its Tor module as an NNTP proxy?
https://danner-net.de/omom/uimainconfignews.htm
https://danner-net.de/omom/tutorconfigclienttbirdnews.htm
And uncheck "Remailer message routing for News" at the Anon tab.

I do not use Omnimix and the set-up was meant for QSL users, which
do not want to learn Omnimix.

This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

Stefan Claas

2024-08-12 14:48:09 UTC

Why not simply use OmniMix with its Tor module as an NNTP proxy?
https://danner-net.de/omom/uimainconfignews.htm
https://danner-net.de/omom/tutorconfigclienttbirdnews.htm
And uncheck "Remailer message routing for News" at the Anon tab.

I do not use Omnimix and the set-up was meant for QSL users, which
do not want to learn Omnimix.

This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

Omnimix is a GUI based Remailer client for YAMN and Mixmaster, with a
lot of features. It is the preferred Windows client for many a.p.a-s
users.

--
Regards
Stefan

l***@vlvite.com

2024-08-12 15:21:59 UTC

Why not simply use OmniMix with its Tor module as an NNTP proxy?
https://danner-net.de/omom/uimainconfignews.htm
https://danner-net.de/omom/tutorconfigclienttbirdnews.htm
And uncheck "Remailer message routing for News" at the Anon tab.

I do not use Omnimix and the set-up was meant for QSL users, which
do not want to learn Omnimix.

This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

Omnimix is a GUI based Remailer client for YAMN and Mixmaster, with a
lot of features. It is the preferred Windows client for many a.p.a-s
users.

But -

Post by l***@vlvite.com
This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

In other words, is Omnimix still able to post with other exit
remailers besides the still working frell?

If not, and it also currently only works with frell, then it ain't any
better for us dummies than QSL

Just trying to understand why Omnimix is better than QSL except for
that "security" stuff.

Stefan Claas

2024-08-12 15:56:57 UTC

Post by Yamn3 Remailer
Why not simply use OmniMix with its Tor module as an NNTP proxy?
https://danner-net.de/omom/uimainconfignews.htm
https://danner-net.de/omom/tutorconfigclienttbirdnews.htm
And uncheck "Remailer message routing for News" at the Anon tab.

I do not use Omnimix and the set-up was meant for QSL users, which
do not want to learn Omnimix.

This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

Omnimix is a GUI based Remailer client for YAMN and Mixmaster, with a
lot of features. It is the preferred Windows client for many a.p.a-s
users.

But -

Post by l***@vlvite.com
This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

In other words, is Omnimix still able to post with other exit
remailers besides the still working frell?
If not, and it also currently only works with frell, then it ain't any
better for us dummies than QSL
Just trying to understand why Omnimix is better than QSL except for
that "security" stuff.

Omnimix supports besides of Mixmaster also the YAMN Network, thus
having more exits, than only with QSL and Mixmaster.

--
Regards
Stefan

l***@vlvite.com

2024-08-12 16:33:55 UTC

I do not use Omnimix and the set-up was meant for QSL users, which
do not want to learn Omnimix.

This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

Omnimix is a GUI based Remailer client for YAMN and Mixmaster, with a
lot of features. It is the preferred Windows client for many a.p.a-s
users.

But -

Post by l***@vlvite.com
This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

In other words, is Omnimix still able to post with other exit
remailers besides the still working frell?
If not, and it also currently only works with frell, then it ain't any
better for us dummies than QSL
Just trying to understand why Omnimix is better than QSL except for
that "security" stuff.

Omnimix supports besides of Mixmaster also the YAMN Network, thus
having more exits, than only with QSL and Mixmaster.

Finally!

I had no idea that this YAMN stuff was a separate network of
remailers. I'm going to give it a try a bit later on. Things have been
a bit woozy lately for me. I just spent a week in the hospital and am
on a bunch of bummer pills which screw up the head pretty good.

I did see the page a while back on a simple setup for Omnimix for
simpletons. I'm definitely going to give it a try when the head
clears. : o)

Thanks, Stefan, for you patience.

Stefan Claas

2024-08-12 16:42:41 UTC

I do not use Omnimix and the set-up was meant for QSL users, which
do not want to learn Omnimix.

This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

Omnimix is a GUI based Remailer client for YAMN and Mixmaster, with a
lot of features. It is the preferred Windows client for many a.p.a-s
users.

But -

Post by l***@vlvite.com
This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

In other words, is Omnimix still able to post with other exit
remailers besides the still working frell?
If not, and it also currently only works with frell, then it ain't any
better for us dummies than QSL
Just trying to understand why Omnimix is better than QSL except for
that "security" stuff.

Omnimix supports besides of Mixmaster also the YAMN Network, thus
having more exits, than only with QSL and Mixmaster.

Finally!
I had no idea that this YAMN stuff was a separate network of
remailers. I'm going to give it a try a bit later on. Things have been
a bit woozy lately for me. I just spent a week in the hospital and am
on a bunch of bummer pills which screw up the head pretty good.
I did see the page a while back on a simple setup for Omnimix for
simpletons. I'm definitely going to give it a try when the head
clears. : o)
Thanks, Stefan, for you patience.

You're welcome Luke and a speedy recovery!

--
Regards
Stefan

Anonymous

2024-08-12 16:14:13 UTC

Post by l***@vlvite.com
This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

In other words, is Omnimix still able to post with other exit
remailers besides the still working frell?

No.

Omnimix uses the same remailers as QSL.

Both Omnimix and QSL are the same, in that they only work with
available remailers. No difference.

l***@vlvite.com

2024-08-12 16:39:37 UTC

On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 12:14:13 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous

Post by l***@vlvite.com
This is confusing. Does Omnimix have its own set of remailers and is
still working?

In other words, is Omnimix still able to post with other exit
remailers besides the still working frell?

No.
Omnimix uses the same remailers as QSL.
Both Omnimix and QSL are the same, in that they only work with
available remailers. No difference.

That ain't what Stefan says.

From: Stefan Claas <***@tilde.club>
Message-ID: <***@i2pn2.org>

"Omnimix supports besides of Mixmaster also the YAMN Network, thus
having more exits, than only with QSL and Mixmaster."

Anonymous

2024-08-12 17:52:17 UTC

Post by l***@vlvite.com
That ain't what Stefan says.
"Omnimix supports besides of Mixmaster also the YAMN Network, thus
having more exits, than only with QSL and Mixmaster."

Of course they are different!!!

My response was tailored to the fact the fact that
you keep insisting that you are a QSL user, which doees not support
YAMN.

You never asked about YAMN.

Mixmaster remailers up until yesterday only had one
exit node: frell

Now we have two exit nodes: frell and erie

And because you are working with Mixmaster
both QSL and Omnimix use the same nodes.

You didn't indicate any interest in Omnimix or YAMN.

But I hope you do!!

l***@vlvite.com

2024-08-13 00:06:55 UTC

On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 13:52:17 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous

Post by l***@vlvite.com
That ain't what Stefan says.
"Omnimix supports besides of Mixmaster also the YAMN Network, thus
having more exits, than only with QSL and Mixmaster."

Of course they are different!!!
My response was tailored to the fact the fact that
you keep insisting that you are a QSL user, which doees not support
YAMN.
You never asked about YAMN.
Mixmaster remailers up until yesterday only had one
exit node: frell
Now we have two exit nodes: frell and erie
And because you are working with Mixmaster
both QSL and Omnimix use the same nodes.
You didn't indicate any interest in Omnimix or YAMN.
But I hope you do!!

Yawn..

Anonymous

2024-08-13 00:28:15 UTC

Post by l***@vlvite.com
On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 13:52:17 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous

Post by l***@vlvite.com
That ain't what Stefan says.
"Omnimix supports besides of Mixmaster also the YAMN Network, thus
having more exits, than only with QSL and Mixmaster."

Of course they are different!!!
My response was tailored to the fact the fact that
you keep insisting that you are a QSL user, which doees not support
YAMN.
You never asked about YAMN.
Mixmaster remailers up until yesterday only had one
exit node: frell
Now we have two exit nodes: frell and erie
And because you are working with Mixmaster
both QSL and Omnimix use the same nodes.
You didn't indicate any interest in Omnimix or YAMN.
But I hope you do!!

Yawn..

Fuck off Troll.

2024-08-13 00:48:27 UTC

Path..!fx16.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
...astraweb.com/

Post by l***@vlvite.com
On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 13:52:17 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous
Of course they are different!!!
My response was tailored to the fact the fact that
you keep insisting that you are a QSL user, which doees not support
YAMN.
You never asked about YAMN.
Mixmaster remailers up until yesterday only had one
exit node: frell
Now we have two exit nodes: frell and erie
And because you are working with Mixmaster
both QSL and Omnimix use the same nodes.
You didn't indicate any interest in Omnimix or YAMN.
But I hope you do!!

+1

p.s. the troll farm can't help themselves ... it's congenital

Anonymous

2024-08-13 06:18:27 UTC

Post by D

Path..!fx16.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
...astraweb.com/

+1
p.s. the troll farm can't help themselves ... it's congenital

That's the truth.

Yamn3 Remailer

2024-08-12 14:56:20 UTC

Why not simply use OmniMix with its Tor module as an NNTP proxy?
https://danner-net.de/omom/uimainconfignews.htm
https://danner-net.de/omom/tutorconfigclienttbirdnews.htm
And uncheck "Remailer message routing for News" at the Anon tab.

I do not use Omnimix and the set-up was meant for QSL users, which
do not want to learn Omnimix.

No, you wrote about connecting TB with the Paganini newsserver through
Tor.

Post by Stefan Claas
You're scaring the hell outta this QSL dummy again, Stefan. I haven't
made a bat file since my DOS days before Windows. Windows finally
saved from all those Command line nosebleeds.

2024-08-12 12:32:46 UTC

works perfectly

(using Tor Browser 13.5.2)
https://danner-net.de/omom/uimainconfignews.htm

Post by Yamn3 Remailer
Basic configuration of the built-in NNTP proxy used for news article
retrieval and delivery.
Ctrl_All_News
Host
Address of the NNTP server of which OmniMix has to be a proxy.
Port
Port of the NNTP server of which OmniMix has to be a proxy (usually
119, 563 for NNTPS).
Timeout - Connect
Timeout setting for connecting to the host [ms].
Timeout - Read
Timeout setting for reading from the host [ms].
SSL
Necessity of an encrypted communication.
*Disabled No encrypted communication.
*TLS enabled TLS is used if available.
*TLS required Connection aborted if TLS not available.
*Implicit SSL No connection without implicit SSL.
Tor
Disable Tor for communication with the host or select SOCKS version
to be used for accessing the Tor system.
*Disabled Tor will not be used.
*SOCKS Version 4 requires declaration of the mail host's IP
address.
*SOCKS Version 4a accepts host name of the mail host.
*SOCKS Version 5 accepts either the mail host's IP or host
name.
Using one Tor instance with different hosts at the same time the
connections can be assigned to each other and your privacy may be
gone!
Auth.
Use username / password authentication to log into your ISP's NNTP
host for news delivery and retrieval.
User
Username to access the NNTP server (with authentication activated).
Passwd
Password for accessing the NNTP server (with authentication
activated). It will be stored DES encrypted in the OmniMix .ini
file.

[end quote]

Fritz Wuehler

2024-08-11 23:33:59 UTC

Post by l***@vlvite.com
Where the hell is this paganini?

In a good and safe place

troublemaker

2024-08-13 22:18:25 UTC

paganini.bofh.team

Anonymous

2024-08-13 23:40:44 UTC

paganini.bofh.team

Look like nothing but a placeholder to me.

Nothing there.

2024-08-14 01:39:03 UTC

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