Discussion:
QSL Quesion
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c***@invalidated.org
2024-10-29 19:22:00 UTC
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For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.

I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.

Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.

Any other QSL user having such a problem?
Anonymous
2024-10-29 19:42:12 UTC
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Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
No. What does your sending template look like?
c***@invalidated.org
2024-10-29 20:28:56 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:42:12 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
No. What does your sending template look like?
my basic template

Fcc:
Host:
From: ***@anonymous.com
Chain: *,*,*,dizum; copies=3;
To: ***@dizum.com, ***@neodome.net
Newsgroups:
Subject:

Hosts I use:
fleegle.mixmin.net
Port:2525

mailrelay.archiade.net
Port: 2525

snorky.mixmin.net
Port: 2525
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my Allpingers.txt is current

# A L L P I N G E R S' I N D E X
#
# Updated: Mon, 27 Oct 2024
# This list was last updated by SEC3
Nomen Nescio
2024-10-29 23:03:07 UTC
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Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:42:12 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
No. What does your sending template look like?
my basic template
Chain: *,*,*,dizum; copies=3;
fleegle.mixmin.net
Port:2525
mailrelay.archiade.net
Port: 2525
snorky.mixmin.net
Port: 2525
--------------
my Allpingers.txt is current
# A L L P I N G E R S' I N D E X
#
# Updated: Mon, 27 Oct 2024
# This list was last updated by SEC3
This is what I use for replies;

Host: 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion
From: ***@gmail.com
Chain: *,*; copies=2;
To: ***@neodome.net
References:
Newsgroups:
Subject:

Use one of your hosts if you're not using Tor.
You should have a References: header if you're replying.
c***@invalidated.org
2024-10-29 23:28:31 UTC
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On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:03:07 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
Post by Nomen Nescio
Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:42:12 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
No. What does your sending template look like?
my basic template
Chain: *,*,*,dizum; copies=3;
fleegle.mixmin.net
Port:2525
mailrelay.archiade.net
Port: 2525
snorky.mixmin.net
Port: 2525
--------------
my Allpingers.txt is current
# A L L P I N G E R S' I N D E X
#
# Updated: Mon, 27 Oct 2024
# This list was last updated by SEC3
This is what I use for replies;
Host: 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion
Chain: *,*; copies=2;
Use one of your hosts if you're not using Tor.
I rarely use Tor. All my test posts have been non Tor.
Post by Nomen Nescio
You should have a References: header if you're replying.
That's automatically done by QSL when doing a Reply post.

My problem is that only about 1 out of a dozen or so QSL posts
successfully show up in the groups. I realize not all remailer posts
are successful, but those were few and far between. What changed?
Anonymous
2024-10-30 00:22:19 UTC
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Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:03:07 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
Post by Nomen Nescio
Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:42:12 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
No. What does your sending template look like?
my basic template
Chain: *,*,*,dizum; copies=3;
fleegle.mixmin.net
Port:2525
mailrelay.archiade.net
Port: 2525
snorky.mixmin.net
Port: 2525
--------------
my Allpingers.txt is current
# A L L P I N G E R S' I N D E X
#
# Updated: Mon, 27 Oct 2024
# This list was last updated by SEC3
This is what I use for replies;
Host: 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion
Chain: *,*; copies=2;
Use one of your hosts if you're not using Tor.
I rarely use Tor. All my test posts have been non Tor.
Post by Nomen Nescio
You should have a References: header if you're replying.
That's automatically done by QSL when doing a Reply post.
My problem is that only about 1 out of a dozen or so QSL posts
successfully show up in the groups. I realize not all remailer posts
are successful, but those were few and far between. What changed?
I suggest you try the template that I use, changing only the host, and
see how it goes.
c***@invalidated.org
2024-10-30 00:45:23 UTC
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On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:22:19 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:03:07 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
Post by Nomen Nescio
Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:42:12 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
I suggest you try the template that I use, changing only the host, and
see how it goes.
Post by c***@invalidated.org
Post by Nomen Nescio
Host: 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion
It needs a port. Right?
Anonymous
2024-10-30 02:52:23 UTC
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Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:22:19 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:03:07 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
Post by Nomen Nescio
Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:42:12 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
I suggest you try the template that I use, changing only the host, and
see how it goes.
Post by c***@invalidated.org
Post by Nomen Nescio
Host: 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion
It needs a port. Right?
No, but .onion hosts need Tor. That's why I said to only change the Host.
Anonymous
2024-10-30 08:05:10 UTC
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Post by c***@invalidated.org
I rarely use Tor. All my test posts have been non Tor.
Why wouldn't you use Tor?
D
2024-10-30 11:29:34 UTC
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Post by Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
I rarely use Tor. All my test posts have been non Tor.
Why wouldn't you use Tor?
Tor Browser 13.5.9 (2024-10-28; legacy update for win7/8):
https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1359/

Tor Browser 14.0.1 (2024-10-29):
https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1401/

OmniMix 2.7.3 (2024-05-12):
https://danner-net.de/om.htm
Nomen Nescio
2024-10-31 06:46:17 UTC
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Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:03:07 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
Post by Nomen Nescio
Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:42:12 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and
less frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an
entire weeks's time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my
Win 7 machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
No. What does your sending template look like?
my basic template
Chain: *,*,*,dizum; copies=3;
fleegle.mixmin.net
Port:2525
mailrelay.archiade.net
Port: 2525
snorky.mixmin.net
Port: 2525
--------------
my Allpingers.txt is current
# A L L P I N G E R S' I N D E X
#
# Updated: Mon, 27 Oct 2024
# This list was last updated by SEC3
This is what I use for replies;
Host: 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion
Chain: *,*; copies=2;
Use one of your hosts if you're not using Tor.
I rarely use Tor. All my test posts have been non Tor.
If that's how you've posting, use your ISP SMTP server or gmail to send
some tests. This will come from QSL via ISP SMTP no Tor.
Post by c***@invalidated.org
Post by Nomen Nescio
You should have a References: header if you're replying.
That's automatically done by QSL when doing a Reply post.
My problem is that only about 1 out of a dozen or so QSL posts
successfully show up in the groups. I realize not all remailer posts
are successful, but those were few and far between. What changed?
How many groups are in your post?

One remailer has this string.
/^Newsgroups:.*,.*,.*,/ => delete message
The exits have the below.
/^Newsgroups:.*,.*,.*,.*,.*,/ => delete message
Anonymous
2024-10-31 08:43:00 UTC
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Post by Nomen Nescio
Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:03:07 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
Post by Nomen Nescio
Post by c***@invalidated.org
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:42:12 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous
Post by Anonymous
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and
less frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an
entire weeks's time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my
Win 7 machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
No. What does your sending template look like?
my basic template
Chain: *,*,*,dizum; copies=3;
fleegle.mixmin.net
Port:2525
mailrelay.archiade.net
Port: 2525
snorky.mixmin.net
Port: 2525
--------------
my Allpingers.txt is current
# A L L P I N G E R S' I N D E X
#
# Updated: Mon, 27 Oct 2024
# This list was last updated by SEC3
This is what I use for replies;
Host: 3fd6guyxldqnjaqtfzejnjvq6bj7ilv5u7g7ovbubhwoeqhc222zvrad.onion
Chain: *,*; copies=2;
Use one of your hosts if you're not using Tor.
I rarely use Tor. All my test posts have been non Tor.
If that's how you've posting, use your ISP SMTP server or gmail to send
some tests. This will come from QSL via ISP SMTP no Tor.
Post by c***@invalidated.org
Post by Nomen Nescio
You should have a References: header if you're replying.
That's automatically done by QSL when doing a Reply post.
My problem is that only about 1 out of a dozen or so QSL posts
successfully show up in the groups. I realize not all remailer posts
are successful, but those were few and far between. What changed?
How many groups are in your post?
One remailer has this string.
/^Newsgroups:.*,.*,.*,/ => delete message
The exits have the below.
/^Newsgroups:.*,.*,.*,.*,.*,/ => delete message
Use the neodome m2n to bypass the above restrictions.
D
2024-10-29 20:49:01 UTC
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Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
astra-web works with qsl . . . qsl works with yamn . . . qsl works
with everything . . . a.p.a-s is the newsgroup for qsl diagnostics
Nomen Nescio
2024-10-31 07:39:10 UTC
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Post by D
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
astra-web works with qsl . . . qsl works with yamn . . . qsl works
with everything . . . a.p.a-s is the newsgroup for qsl diagnostics
Actually no QSL doesn't. It sucks dick with certain common SMTP servers
because it doesn't always handle TLS negotiation correctly. Everything
else gets blamed but the program because most have no idea how to
troubleshoot simple SMTP, TLS or SSL. It can be tweaked to be reliable
for the most part. What you cannot control is the initial SMTP entry
point.
D
2024-10-31 17:25:47 UTC
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Post by Nomen Nescio
Post by D
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency. Lately, I'm lucky if one or two show up in an entire weeks's
time.
I have the same problem with QSL whether sent with my XP or my Win 7
machine.
Yes, I update the pinger and SMTP stats daily from the SEC3 site.
Any other QSL user having such a problem?
astra-web works with qsl . . . qsl works with yamn . . . qsl works
with everything . . . a.p.a-s is the newsgroup for qsl diagnostics
Actually no QSL doesn't. It sucks dick with certain common SMTP servers
because it doesn't always handle TLS negotiation correctly. Everything
else gets blamed but the program because most have no idea how to
troubleshoot simple SMTP, TLS or SSL. It can be tweaked to be reliable
for the most part. What you cannot control is the initial SMTP entry
point.
considering that omnimix does everything and runs on every popular
version of microsoft windows from xp through 11, could qsl utilize
at least some of omnimix features such as tor, dynamic dns, relays,
hidden services, etc.? if the answer is no, then qsl users are out
of luck... perhaps it's time to retire qsl and join the human race
Fritz Wuehler
2024-11-01 13:30:12 UTC
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Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency.
No. I use Windows 7 and QSL and my message demonstrate that it works well.
D
2024-11-01 18:21:47 UTC
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Post by Fritz Wuehler
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency.
No. I use Windows 7 and QSL and my message demonstrate that it works well.
the apparently frustrated op claimed "whether sent with my xp or my win 7"

it's a consistent pattern with these "qsl-loyalist/omnimix-refuseniks" who
simply will not listen to reason, namely that for those who cannot get qsl
to work normally, omnimix works great and includes many more features than
qsl; omnimix is also very well maintained, whereas qsl is abandonware, and
this newsgroup gets more complaints about qsl than any other related topic

those posting complaints about qsl also seem to have a problem using their
spell-checker before hitting the "send" button ... deliberate misspellings
and refusal to engage in substantive dialogue are a common tactic of troll
farm operatives... omnimix is very popular, so the council doesn't like it
Anonymous
2024-11-01 20:49:21 UTC
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Post by D
Post by Fritz Wuehler
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency.
No. I use Windows 7 and QSL and my message demonstrate that it works well.
the apparently frustrated op claimed "whether sent with my xp or my win 7"
it's a consistent pattern with these "qsl-loyalist/omnimix-refuseniks" who
simply will not listen to reason, namely that for those who cannot get qsl
to work normally, omnimix works great and includes many more features than
qsl; omnimix is also very well maintained, whereas qsl is abandonware, and
this newsgroup gets more complaints about qsl than any other related topic
those posting complaints about qsl also seem to have a problem using their
spell-checker before hitting the "send" button ... deliberate misspellings
and refusal to engage in substantive dialogue are a common tactic of troll
farm operatives... omnimix is very popular, so the council doesn't like it
OM troll / shill.
c***@invalidated.org
2024-11-01 23:40:11 UTC
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On Fri, 01 Nov 2024 14:30:12 +0100, Fritz Wuehler
Post by Fritz Wuehler
Post by c***@invalidated.org
For several months now my QSL posts have appeared with less and less
frequency.
No. I use Windows 7 and QSL and my message demonstrate that it works well.
Puzzling problem is happening on my XP and 7 comps. I give up for now.
Later on I'll try reinstalling QSL with a new download from the SEC3
site.

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