Discussion:
Pinger/Remailers locations
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Borked Pseudo Mailed
2008-10-28 21:00:12 UTC
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This is the best determination I could come up with as to the
locations of pingers and remailers. Please make any
additions/corrections to the list below.

Pinger locations:

http://rlist.ath.cx/pubring.mix - FRANCE
http://www.tahina.priv.at/~cm/stats/pubring.mix - AUSTRIA
http://pinger.bananasplit.info/pubring.mix - UK?
http://privacy.outel.org/pubring.mix - US
http://www.cside.dyndns.org/stats/pubring.mix - UK?
http://www.deuxpi.ca/echolot/pubring.mix - CANADA
http://anonymitaet-im-inter.net/echolot/pubring.mix - GERMANY
http://www.eurovibes.org/echolot/pubring.mix - GERMANY
http://echolot.theremailer.net/pubring.mix - GERMANY
http://stats.mixmaster.it/pubring.mix - ITALY
http://www.hermetix.org/echolot/pubring.mix - CANADA
http://pinger.mixmin.net/pubring.mix - GERMANY
http://www.noreply.org/echolot/pubring.mix - AUSTRIA
http://www.panta-rhei.eu.org/stats/pubring.mix - AUSTRIA
http://pboxlevel4.winstonsmith.info/echolot/pubring.mix - ITALY
http://pboxmix.homelinux.net/echolot/pubring.mix - ITALY
http://www.antagonism.org/echolot/pubring.mix - US
http://stats.melontraffickers.com/pubring.mix - US
http://senshiweb.webhop.net/pubring.mix - GERMANY

Remailer locations:

***@firenze.linux.it antani - ITALY
***@remailer.privacy.at austria - AUSTRIA
***@mixmaster.mixmin.net banana - UK?
***@pseudo.borked.net borked - US
***@mixmaster.thebunker.net bunker - UK
***@outel.org citrus - US?
***@ecn.org cripto - ITALY
***@cside.dyndns.org cside - UK?
***@remailer.cyberiade.it cyberiad - ITALY
***@deuxpi.ca deuxpi - CANADA
***@anonymitaet-im-inter.net devurandom - GERMANY
***@dizum.com dizum - NETHERLANDS
***@teksavvy.com eelbash - CANADA
***@eurovibes.org eurovibes - GERMANY
***@remailer.frell.eu.org frell - GERMANY
***@mixmaster.it george - ITALY
***@awxcnx.de gpfa - GERMANY
***@gpftor3.privacyfoundation.de gpfc - FRANCE
***@hermetix.org hermetix - CANADA
***@kroken.dynalias.com kroken - US?
***@reece.net.au kulin - AUSTRALIA
***@remailer.cypherpunks.to lulunga - NETHERLANDS
***@remailer.metacolo.com metacolo - CYPRUS
***@rocketmail.com nightmix - US
;***@panta-rhei.eu.org panta - AUSTRIA
***@remailer.paranoici.org paranoia - SWITZERLAND
***@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info pboxmix - ITALY
***@antagonism.org pobox - US
***@mixmaster.mixmin.net slow - GERMANY
***@tatooine.homelinux.net starwars - ITALY?
***@remailer.antagonism.org winters - US
Zax
2008-10-28 23:04:38 UTC
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:00:12 -0600 (MDT), Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote in
Message-Id: <***@pseudo.borked.net>:

> http://pinger.bananasplit.info/pubring.mix - UK?
Correct. Cornwall to be precise. :)

> ***@mixmaster.mixmin.net banana - UK?
At the moment it's in Germany. I relay mail from the primary MX through
a VPN to obfuscate the actual remailer location. More of a flexibility
benefit than a privacy one. :)

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pub 1024D/8ED57743 2003-07-08 Bananasplit Operator
Key fingerprint = 796F 67E0 E890 A0BB BDAE EBB4 94A6 7A09 8ED5 7743
uid Admin <admin.bananasplit.info>
Borked Pseudo Mailed
2008-10-29 01:45:09 UTC
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>http://pinger.bananasplit.info/pubring.mix - UK?
>Correct. Cornwall to be precise.

>***@mixmaster.mixmin.net banana - UK?
>At the moment it's in Germany. I relay mail from the primary MX
through
>a VPN to obfuscate the actual remailer location. More of a flexibility
>benefit than a privacy one.

Interesting, thanks. I could track this to the UK and Germany, but
this was confusing. The obfuscation is obviously working, however, I
could trace to Germany thru mixmin.net.
George Orwell
2008-10-28 23:31:52 UTC
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Thank you, that is an interesting list. I don't understand why there are
no remailers in Eastern European countries or in first-world Asian
countries.

It seems odd. Maybe some cultural thing keeps Asians from setting up
remailers, but Eastern Europeans? Poland? Hungary? Russia?

Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
https://www.mixmaster.it
George Orwell
2008-10-30 01:55:27 UTC
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This remailer - remailer.paranoici.org - always takes an interesting
ride thru Iran. Not sure I would want to go thru there, however, it my
keep the snoops in the UK and elsewhere from successfully following it.

UNITED STATES (from me), CANADA, ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN, SPAIN, ITALY


Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
https://www.mixmaster.it
Borked Pseudo Mailed
2008-10-30 04:15:35 UTC
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George Orwell wrote:

> This remailer - remailer.paranoici.org - always takes an
> interesting ride thru Iran. Not sure I would want to go
> thru there, however, it my keep the snoops in the UK and
> elsewhere from successfully following it.
>

Has it ever, even remotely, occurred to you that SMTP
traffic does not follow the same route as ICMP traffic?
Nomen Nescio
2008-10-30 12:50:08 UTC
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>George Orwell wrote:
>This remailer - remailer.paranoici.org - always takes an
>interesting ride thru Iran. Not sure I would want to go
>thru there, however, it my keep the snoops in the UK and
>elsewhere from successfully following it.
>Has it ever, even remotely, occurred to you that SMTP
>traffic does not follow the same route as ICMP traffic?

Has it ever, even remotely, occurred to you to come back with anything
other than a smart ass reply?
Nomen Nescio
2008-10-30 19:30:14 UTC
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Nomen Nescio wrote:

> Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
>
>> George Orwell wrote:
>>
>>> This remailer - remailer.paranoici.org - always takes an
>>> interesting ride thru Iran. Not sure I would want to go
>>> thru there, however, it my keep the snoops in the UK and
>>> elsewhere from successfully following it.
>>>
>>
>> Has it ever, even remotely, occurred to you that SMTP
>> traffic does not follow the same route as ICMP traffic?
>>
>
> Has it ever, even remotely, occurred to you to come back
> with anything other than a smart ass reply?
>


Such a dummkopf...
Your remailer diagnostic techniques, at best described as
`rinky dink', failing to take into account the basics.

As some other's `smart ass reply' was written:

;From: Anonymous
;Chain: *,*,borked; copies=3

>>>Should we tell him?
>>>
>>>QS BLOWS YOUR PRIVATES! if used improperly

;From: Nobody
;From: Nobody
From: Nasty <***@spamexpire-200810.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
;Chain: *,*,borked; copies=3
;Chain: *,*,kulin; copies=3

Sheesh!

Subject: cyberiade still having problems

>>>Subject: remailer-key
>>>To:
***@remailer.cyberiade.it,***@deuxpi.ca,***@anonymitaet-im-
inter.net,***@dizum.com

Here is a tip:
send remailer-key request to a single remailer address.

Such a dummkopf!
Fritz Wuehler
2008-11-01 04:49:31 UTC
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>Nomen Nescio wrote:
>Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
>George Orwell wrote:
>This remailer - remailer.paranoici.org - always takes an
>interesting ride thru Iran. Not sure I would want to go
>thru there, however, it my keep the snoops in the UK and
>elsewhere from successfully following it.
>Has it ever, even remotely, occurred to you that SMTP
>traffic does not follow the same route as ICMP traffic?
>Has it ever, even remotely, occurred to you to come back
>with anything other than a smart ass reply?
>Such a dummkopf...
>Your remailer diagnostic techniques, at best described as
>`rinky dink', failing to take into account the basics.
>As some other's `smart ass reply' was written:
>;From: Anonymous
>;Chain: *,*,borked; copies=3
>>>>Should we tell him?
>>>>
>>>>QS BLOWS YOUR PRIVATES! if used improperly
>;From: Nobody
>;From: Nobody
>From: Nasty <***@spamexpire-200810.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
>;Chain: *,*,borked; copies=3
>;Chain: *,*,kulin; copies=3
>Sheesh!
Subject: cyberiade still having problems
>>>Subject: remailer-key
>>>>To:
>***@remailer.cyberiade.it,***@deuxpi.ca,***@anonymitaet-
im-
>inter.net,***@dizum.com
>Here is a tip:
>send remailer-key request to a single remailer address.
>Such a dummkopf!

I agree, this group is full of nasty people. Their language shows
their complete lack of maturity. I almost never make a comment here.
Zax, Kulin, and Christian are always decent but you never know how the
others are going to act.
Nightmix-Admin
2008-10-30 06:32:42 UTC
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"Borked Pseudo Mailed" <***@pseudo.borked.net> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag news:***@pseudo.borked.net...

> This is the best determination I could come up with as to the
> locations of pingers and remailers. Please make any
> additions/corrections to the list below.
>
> ***@rocketmail.com nightmix - US

Not US! Germany, Saarbruecken, south-west, near the french frontier.

Michael,
Nightmix-Admin
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