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The Fourth Of yardbird's Chums Grabs His Ankles
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Kulin
2008-08-14 00:36:49 UTC
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"Erik Raymond Wayerski [Lerch], 46, of Leander, Texas, pleaded guilty
today to charges related to his involvement in a vast global child
pornography trafficking enterprise, Acting Assistant Attorney General
Matthew Friedrich of the Criminal Division, Acting U.S. Attorney for the
Northern District of Florida Thomas F. Kirwin and FBI Executive Assistant
Director J. Stephen Tidwell announced.

"Wayerski faces a minimum prison sentence of 20 years and a maximum of
life in prison, in addition to statutory fines. He will be sentenced
following the trial of the remaining defendants in 2009.

"Trial for the remaining defendants is scheduled to begin Jan. 5, 2009, in
Pensacola, Fla., before Senior U.S. District Judge Lacey A. Collier."
Fred C Dobbs
2008-08-14 07:05:23 UTC
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"Erik Raymond Wayerski [Lerch], 46, of Leander, Texas, pleaded guilty
today to charges related to his involvement in a vast global child
pornography trafficking enterprise,
So vast a global cp ring that they caught 12 people out of a possible
4 billion.!

Great work oinkers!
Baal
2008-08-15 06:16:08 UTC
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Fred C Dobbs wrote in alt.fan.yardbird on August 14, 2008 03:05 in
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"Erik Raymond Wayerski [Lerch], 46, of Leander, Texas, pleaded guilty
today to charges related to his involvement in a vast global child
pornography trafficking enterprise,
So vast a global cp ring that they caught 12 people out of a possible
4 billion.!
Great work oinkers!
C'mon, Fred -- you know the drill. It's just like the War on Drugs -- every
bust is the largest, blah, blah, blah. What they're NOT talking about is
that (if memory serves) they apprehended only half of the group.

They also don't like to talk about the fact that only a lucky break gave
them an "in" to the group -- if it weren't for an informer who handed over
both halves of the group's PGP keypair, they'd still be largely in the dark.

Baal <***@Usenet.org>
PGP Key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1E92C0E8
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"Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?" -- "Who will watch the Watchmen?"
-- Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347. circa 128 AD

The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the
people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit
of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of
liberty and almost any deprivation. -- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
a***@remailer.hastio.org
2008-08-15 16:42:59 UTC
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"Erik Raymond Wayerski [Lerch], 46, of Leander, Texas, pleaded guilty
today to charges related to his involvement in a vast global child
pornography trafficking enterprise,
So vast a global cp ring that they caught 12 people out of a possible
4 billion.!
Great work oinkers!
14 Americans, plus others.

The Americans -
Name ID Number Age Nick
MICHAEL A BERGER 93251-022 31 Box Of Rocks
NEVILLE RAY MCGARITY 11774-280 40 Wraith
GARY WAYNE LAKEY 08861-028 54 Eggplant
STEPAN BONDARENKO 62915-066 38 ?
JAMES DUANE FREEMAN 25813-048 49 Mystikal
RUBLE DOYLE KEYS 70977-065 56 Crazy Horse
JOHN C MOSMAN 17161-014 46 Pickleman
WARREN MUMPOWER 05984-018 64 Lizzard
RAYMOND GABRIEL ROY 45462-112 54 Nimo
ERIK WAYERSKI 83433-180 46 Lerch
WARREN WEBER 12760-023 57 Muad'Dib
RONALD LYNN WHITE 24078-057 60 Roadkill
DANIEL SCOTT CASTLEMAN 34833-177 43 ?
MARVIN LAVERNE LAMBERT 08860-028 59 Methuselah

After sentencing, we'll be able to follow their incarceration by plugging
their ID number into
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/LocateInmate.jsp

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Baal
2008-08-16 18:06:21 UTC
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Post by Fred C Dobbs
Post by Kulin
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/August/08-crm-722.html
"Erik Raymond Wayerski [Lerch], 46, of Leander, Texas, pleaded
guilty today to charges related to his involvement in a vast global
child pornography trafficking enterprise,
So vast a global cp ring that they caught 12 people out of a possible
4 billion.!
Great work oinkers!
14 Americans, plus others.
The Americans -
Name ID Number Age Nick
MICHAEL A BERGER 93251-022 31 Box Of Rocks
NEVILLE RAY MCGARITY 11774-280 40 Wraith
GARY WAYNE LAKEY 08861-028 54 Eggplant
STEPAN BONDARENKO 62915-066 38 ?
JAMES DUANE FREEMAN 25813-048 49 Mystikal
RUBLE DOYLE KEYS 70977-065 56 Crazy Horse
JOHN C MOSMAN 17161-014 46 Pickleman
WARREN MUMPOWER 05984-018 64 Lizzard
RAYMOND GABRIEL ROY 45462-112 54 Nimo
ERIK WAYERSKI 83433-180 46 Lerch
WARREN WEBER 12760-023 57 Muad'Dib
RONALD LYNN WHITE 24078-057 60 Roadkill
DANIEL SCOTT CASTLEMAN 34833-177 43 Chingachgook *
MARVIN LAVERNE LAMBERT 08860-028 59 Methuselah
After sentencing, we'll be able to follow their incarceration by
plugging their ID number into
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/LocateInmate.jsp
* Edited to add name from Castleman affidavit.

According to the Castleman affidavit, there were some 61 nyms (if memory
serves) and some 45 members (other affidavits apparently raise this number
to 48). Assuming the lower number (45) only one-third of the members of this
group have been apprehended.

There are supposedly some Canadians and others, but there has been nothing
in the news about them that I can recall. Usually, in a bust of this type,
the police tend to trumpet this to the news media, and it usually hits the
front pages, so the lack of any such stories tells me that the police
haven't got anything even remotely solid on anyone, or it would be all over
the media.

It only stands to reason that the police are not going to announce a bust
of this type, until all those whose identities can be traced have been
located, and apprehended--all those not apprehended can be anticipated to
go to ground, making them even harder to locate/apprehend. Accordingly, the
ones currently apprehended are likely to be the only ones--I would be
somewhat surprised to see any future additions.

Baal <***@Usenet.org>
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"Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?" -- "Who will watch the Watchmen?"
-- Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347. circa 128 AD

The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the
people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit
of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of
liberty and almost any deprivation. -- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
George Orwell
2008-08-17 02:08:40 UTC
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GARY WAYNE LAKEY 08861-028 54 Eggplant
Is that the guy that always used to post about privacy.li, or am I
confusing him with someone else?

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Nomen Nescio
2008-08-17 04:10:06 UTC
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GARY WAYNE LAKEY 08861-028 54 Eggplant
Is that the guy that always used to post about privacy.li, or am I
confusing him with someone else?
No, you aren't confusing him, one and the same. He was in the middle of
all the privacy.li spamming bullshit extolling how they protected him
and there was nothing the US could do to catch him. Too bad for him
that wasn't true and all the feds needed to do was call Hong Kong and
ask for the data and the data center turned it all over without a
warrant, anything written, or even having to contact a privacy.li admin.
Yes folks, the data center logged it all, so much for "no logs".

All that "Overseas is safer" turned out to all be bunk (which we knew
and told him while he argued against it and claimed we were all cotse
puppets lying to him...just remember that our "lies" were actually truth
now whenever you drop the soap eggy! Just think, had you listened...but
you didn't and now you get what you deserve!).

It was great for the rest of the world that he was a moron and believed
hype over what every expert on the planet was telling him. I personally
hope that all pedos believe the hype and use privacy.li or other
services that claim "no logs" and "you are anonymous with us". These
services do the world justice when the pedos believe their hype and then
get caught.
Baal
2008-08-17 19:23:34 UTC
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Nomen Nescio wrote in alt.fan.yardbird on August 17, 2008 00:10 in
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Post by George Orwell
GARY WAYNE LAKEY 08861-028 54 Eggplant
Is that the guy that always used to post about privacy.li, or am I
confusing him with someone else?
No, you aren't confusing him, one and the same. He was in the middle
of all the privacy.li spamming bullshit extolling how they protected
him and there was nothing the US could do to catch him. Too bad for him
that wasn't true and all the feds needed to do was call Hong Kong and
ask for the data and the data center turned it all over without a
warrant, anything written, or even having to contact a privacy.li admin.
Yes folks, the data center logged it all, so much for "no logs".
No such evidence has yet come to light -- we'll have to see what actually
comes out in the forthcoming trials in 2009.

What really tripped-up the group was that one member (described by police
as Mr. Townsville) engaged in extracurricular activities, shall we say, for
which he was apprehended.

Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
Post by Nomen Nescio
All that "Overseas is safer" turned out to all be bunk (which we knew
and told him while he argued against it and claimed we were all cotse
puppets lying to him...just remember that our "lies" were actually
truth now whenever you drop the soap eggy! Just think, had you
listened...but you didn't and now you get what you deserve!).
I didn't really follow all these arguments, but any service that uses
Usenet to spam its services, isn't one that I would either use or recommend.

My impression of Eggplant, from what little I saw of his postings, was that
he was terminally-clueless when it came to security; furthermore, he
appeared to be lazy, and unwilling and/or unable to learn proper methods.
Post by Nomen Nescio
It was great for the rest of the world that he was a moron and
believed hype over what every expert on the planet was telling him.
The problem with so many people today, is that they want results without
having to work for it, and they want instant gratification. The scammers
know this and, indeed, count on it. People stick with insecure operating
systems like Windows--which is a forensic technician's wet dream--instead
of using more secure OSes. Again, the reason is sloth--an unwillingness to
learn anything new, or to break with established patterns of doing things.
Both police and forensics experts count on this type of behaviour.

[snip]

Baal <***@Usenet.org>
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Retired Lecturer, Encryption and Data Security, Pedo U, Usenet Campus
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"Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?" -- "Who will watch the Watchmen?"
-- Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347. circa 128 AD

The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the
people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit
of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of
liberty and almost any deprivation. -- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
DarkSide of Nightmix
2008-08-18 05:52:57 UTC
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Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Baal
2008-09-02 23:34:27 UTC
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DarkSide of Nightmix wrote in alt.privacy.anon-server on August 18, 2008
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Post by Baal
Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.

Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.

Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.

- From a /security/ point of view though, it was an unmitigated disaster.
All that was required was for a /single/ member to be apprehended, and have
the keypair/passphrase combination come into the possession of the police,
and *all* of the group's discussions would now be readable by them. This is
essentially what took place.

Baal <***@Usenet.org>
PGP Key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1E92C0E8
PGP Key Fingerprint: 40E4 E9BB D084 22D5 3DE9 66B8 08E3 638C 1E92 C0E8
Retired Lecturer, Encryption and Data Security, Pedo U, Usenet Campus
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"Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?" -- "Who will watch the Watchmen?"
-- Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347. circa 128 AD

The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the
people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit
of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of
liberty and almost any deprivation. -- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
A. Lurker
2008-09-28 17:37:57 UTC
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DarkSide of Nightmix wrote in alt.privacy.anon-server on August 18, 2008
Post by DarkSide of Nightmix
Post by Baal
Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.
Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.
Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.
- From a /security/ point of view though, it was an unmitigated disaster.
All that was required was for a /single/ member to be apprehended, and have
the keypair/passphrase combination come into the possession of the police,
and *all* of the group's discussions would now be readable by them. This is
essentially what took place.
The same problem would exist if they were juggling dozens of keys. If
any one of the members were compromised all of the messages where that
key was among the recipients would be then readable.

A. L.
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2008-09-29 04:34:14 UTC
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DarkSide of Nightmix wrote in alt.privacy.anon-server on August 18, 2008
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Post by Baal
Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.
Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.
Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.
Anyone with the IQ of a peanut or better and 30 seconds of free
time could figure out that there's no need to "juggle" anything.
PGP and GnuPG both have built in ways to deal with multiple
recipients simply and painlessly.

The REAL reason these pedofucks got nailed is they were plain old
stupid for taking the advice of an incompetent fools like Yardturd
and Doctor DiaperSniper.
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- From a /security/ point of view though, it was an unmitigated disaster.
All that was required was for a /single/ member to be apprehended, and have
the keypair/passphrase combination come into the possession of the police,
and *all* of the group's discussions would now be readable by them. This is
essentially what took place.
The same problem would exist if they were juggling dozens of keys. If
any one of the members were compromised all of the messages where that
key was among the recipients would be then readable.
Which would OBVIOUSLY be some quantifiable number of messages less
than "all of them".

Pedofucks.... dumber than a sack of hammers.
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A. L.
Fred C Dobbs
2008-09-30 03:12:43 UTC
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DarkSide of Nightmix wrote in alt.privacy.anon-server on August 18, 2008
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Post by Baal
Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.
Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.
Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.
Anyone with the IQ of a peanut or better and 30 seconds of free
time could figure out that there's no need to "juggle" anything.
PGP and GnuPG both have built in ways to deal with multiple
recipients simply and painlessly.
The REAL reason these pedofucks got nailed is they were plain old
stupid for taking the advice of an incompetent fools like Yardturd
and Doctor DiaperSniper.
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?

Let me remind you, because you have a short memory for facts that don't fit
your world view, Yardbird aka Dr. Who was never apprehended!

Because he followed his own security suggestions!
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
2008-09-30 05:19:29 UTC
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DarkSide of Nightmix wrote in alt.privacy.anon-server on August 18, 2008
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Post by Baal
Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.
Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.
Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.
Anyone with the IQ of a peanut or better and 30 seconds of free
time could figure out that there's no need to "juggle" anything.
PGP and GnuPG both have built in ways to deal with multiple
recipients simply and painlessly.
The REAL reason these pedofucks got nailed is they were plain old
stupid for taking the advice of an incompetent fools like Yardturd
and Doctor DiaperSniper.
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Why no you shitforbrains pedofuck degenerate, I meant precisely
what I said.

Now is there anything else your sub-kindergarten mind needs cleared
up this day?
Fred C Dobbs
2008-10-02 04:05:10 UTC
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DarkSide of Nightmix wrote in alt.privacy.anon-server on August 18, 2008
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Post by Baal
Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.
Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.
Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.
Anyone with the IQ of a peanut or better and 30 seconds of free
time could figure out that there's no need to "juggle" anything.
PGP and GnuPG both have built in ways to deal with multiple
recipients simply and painlessly.
The REAL reason these pedofucks got nailed is they were plain old
stupid for taking the advice of an incompetent fools like Yardturd
and Doctor DiaperSniper.
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Why no you shitforbrains pedofuck degenerate, I meant precisely
what I said.
Now is there anything else your sub-kindergarten mind needs cleared
up this day?
Hey poo-poo panties, aren't you the sub-retard that bet a Haitian boy's butt
that I was Dr. Who?

"Ahh, but the strawberries that's, that's where I had them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caine_Mutiny_(film)

"Ahh, but Fred C Dobbs and Dr.Who posted from AIOE and the NNTP posting
hosts were the same"

Fucktard, smeg wadd, eat dead Haitian shit and meet your fucked up God
in Haitian Hell !

PS: Did Boschloo (sp?) disapear at the same time as Yardbird/Dr.Who?

I always suspected Yardbird as being muliple personalities in his group,
maybe he did the same here.
Non scrivetemi
2008-10-03 00:22:59 UTC
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Haitian
<flush pathetic pedo-rant>

Your infatuation with black cock is showing again pedofuck.
Anonymous Remailer
2008-10-03 05:32:36 UTC
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Haitian
<flush pathetic pedo-rant>
Your infatuation with black cock is showing again pedofuck.
Nice try at evading the question.

Wipe that HIV+ cum from your lips before it drips on your keyboard
and admit you don't know shit from shinola!
Fred C Dobbs
2008-10-05 03:30:36 UTC
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DarkSide of Nightmix wrote in alt.privacy.anon-server on August 18, 2008
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Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.
Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.
Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.
Anyone with the IQ of a peanut or better and 30 seconds of free
time could figure out that there's no need to "juggle" anything.
PGP and GnuPG both have built in ways to deal with multiple
recipients simply and painlessly.
The REAL reason these pedofucks got nailed is they were plain old
stupid for taking the advice of an incompetent fools like Yardturd
and Doctor DiaperSniper.
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Why no you shitforbrains pedofuck degenerate, I meant precisely
what I said.
Now is there anything else your sub-kindergarten mind needs cleared
up this day?
Hey poo-poo panties, aren't you the sub-retard that bet a Haitian boy's butt
that I was Dr. Who?
Oh my, no 20 paragraph response?

You mean I really won an argument with the APAS troll?
Non scrivetemi
2008-09-30 06:11:23 UTC
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Fred C Dobbs wrote:

<FLUSH PEDOPHILE RANT!>

Hey asshole! Happen to hear about the father that choked his
daughter's attacker to death this weekend? Must be satisfying
beyond imagination to snuff one of you shitstains out that way. Why
not volunteer for an encore!

And by the way dimwit......
Yeah, you're busted. LOL!
Sparky
2008-09-30 14:34:10 UTC
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Fred C Dobbs wrote:

<snippage>
Post by Fred C Dobbs
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The REAL reason these pedofucks got nailed is they were plain old
stupid for taking the advice of an incompetent fools like Yardturd
and Doctor DiaperSniper.
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Let me remind you, because you have a short memory for facts that don't fit
your world view, Yardbird aka Dr. Who was never apprehended!
The actual facts of the matter, rather than an agenda-spun version
thereof, are that the criminals were indeed following the advice of
that person or persons. Whether or not the individual(s) in charge were
actually arrested is entirely irrelevant. The criminal conspiracy was
infiltrated and demolished because said advice was both horribly flawed
technically, and overly complex in nature.

Yes, as ironic as it is, in essence it's the elaborate authentication
mechanisms themselves that ultimately led to their downfall. Placing
trust in an untrustworthy methodology was their Achilles heel, and that
methodology was 100% the brainchild of their leader(s). Setting aside
the fact that they were criminals of the lowest order who truly
deserved to be caught and punished regardless, he or she is entirely to
blame for the problems they're all facing right now. Be they a self
made prison of paranoia and fear, or an actual physical one.

*shrug*

This is what typically happens when rank amateurs assume responsibility
for things which their training and experience simply don't equip them
to deal with. In this case it was a good thing because it reduced at
least to some extent the abuse and exploitation of children and removed
a few low-order scumbags from society. But the types of blatant errors
and obvious mistakes made by Who/bird/whatever certainly aren't limited
to criminals and criminal mentality. Decent people make them too if
they're not well educated, or follow the advice of those who aren't.

I'm not a stock broker or anything like that. If I were to suggest that
you buy stock in XYZ-Corp and that company folded the day after you
laid out your hard earned money, would my advice be any less flawed if
I myself didn't follow it?

Of course not.
Borked Pseudo Mailed
2008-09-30 17:59:33 UTC
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But the types of blatant errors and obvious mistakes made by
Who/bird/whatever certainly aren't limited to criminals and criminal
mentality.
Has anyone seen Doctor Who's fanboy and niece-lover Thomas Boschloon lately?
Non scrivetemi
2008-09-30 20:46:46 UTC
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Post by Borked Pseudo Mailed
But the types of blatant errors and obvious mistakes made by
Who/bird/whatever certainly aren't limited to criminals and criminal
mentality.
Has anyone seen Doctor Who's fanboy and niece-lover Thomas Boschloon lately?
Why do you want to know?

Do you want to make sure the coast is clear before you say something
stupid and ignorant?

And btw, Doctor Who's FAQ is an excellent document for newbies like you.
You should give yourself a second chance at learning it's secrets.

Then again, learning has never been your strong point, now has it. You
would have learned by now you will never be popular in APA-S again if it
had.
Fritz Wuehler
2008-10-01 01:13:48 UTC
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Post by Non scrivetemi
Then again, learning has never been your strong point, now has it. You
would have learned by now you will never be popular in APA-S again if it
had.
If it had... what?
That sentence makes zero sense.
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
2008-10-01 04:55:34 UTC
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Post by Non scrivetemi
Then again, learning has never been your strong point, now has it. You
would have learned by now you will never be popular in APA-S again if it
had.
If it had... what?
That sentence makes zero sense.
And you expect a confessed mental case and incestuous pedophile to
makes sense exactly..... why??
Anonymous Remailer (austria)
2008-10-01 04:55:05 UTC
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Post by Non scrivetemi
Post by Borked Pseudo Mailed
But the types of blatant errors and obvious mistakes made by
Who/bird/whatever certainly aren't limited to criminals and criminal
mentality.
Has anyone seen Doctor Who's fanboy and niece-lover Thomas Boschloon lately?
Why do you want to know?
Do you want to make sure the coast is clear before you say something
stupid and ignorant?
And btw, Doctor Who's FAQ is an excellent document for newbies like you.
You should give yourself a second chance at learning it's secrets.
Doctor Dimwit's "FAQ" was thoroughly discredited even BEFORE the
nasty pedofuck was outed, and him running like the coward he is
didn't change that. Sorry about your luck. There's so many gross
errors and so much obvious misinformation in it that it's only
useful as an example of how NOT to do things, and the pedofucks
that got nailed following it are living proof.
Post by Non scrivetemi
Then again, learning has never been your strong point, now has it. You
would have learned by now you will never be popular in APA-S again if it
had.
Coming from someone who's nut nuzzling an incompetent ass who lost
every single shred of credibility and respect he might have had at
one time, that's pretty damned amusing in a pretty pathetic sort of
way. :-p
George Orwell
2008-10-01 09:30:31 UTC
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Post by Non scrivetemi
Post by Borked Pseudo Mailed
Has anyone seen Doctor Who's fanboy and niece-lover Thomas Boschloon lately?
Why do you want to know?
I am Curious George!
Post by Non scrivetemi
Do you want to make sure the coast is clear before you say something
stupid and ignorant?
You say Danger Boy might be lurking behind the shadows? I'm so scared now.
Post by Non scrivetemi
And btw, Doctor Who's FAQ is an excellent document for newbies like you.
Post by Borked Pseudo Mailed
How to feel safe<<? A great FAQ. Sadly it missed the difference between
feeling and being safe.
Post by Non scrivetemi
You should give yourself a second chance at learning it's secrets.
Please, close the drawer with your niece's underwear. No more secrets for
you.
Post by Non scrivetemi
Then again, learning has never been your strong point, now has it. You
would have learned by now you will never be popular in APA-S again if it
had.
I am already very popular, thank you.

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But the types of blatant errors and obvious mistakes made by
Who/bird/whatever certainly aren't limited to criminals and criminal
mentality.
Has anyone seen Doctor Who's fanboy and niece-lover Thomas Boschloon lately?
That whiny little punkass crawled under a remailer rock about a hot
second after someone threatened to forward all his kiddie bullshit
to his psychologist. Laughably, that wasn't too long after the whiny
little punkass got done spewing about what a tough guy he was,
never going to leave, can't be intimidated, yadda, yadda, yadda.

*chuckle*

It was almost as amusing as watching his leg-humping butt-buddy Who
get demolished over not only his "I'm no pedo" lies, but watching as
some of the people who were stupid enough to follow is piss poor
advice got outed BIG time. ;-)

Privacy.LIE, Doctor Dimwit, Boschloon..... the "APAS Trolls" were
dead on accurate about every last one of them. Right down the line.
They're a collection of freaks, fools, and craven cowards, and
nothing more.
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2008-09-30 16:26:59 UTC
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Post by Fred C Dobbs
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Obviously not. The whole gang of miscreants was functioning under
the direction of essentially one person's plan, and that plan
failed miserably.
Post by Fred C Dobbs
Let me remind you, because you have a short memory for facts that don't fit
your world view, Yardbird aka Dr. Who was never apprehended!
Yet.

And since you're pretending to be all about facts today kiddo, what
makes your tiny little mind think being arrested is a singular
definition of failure anyway? Your nasty pedo-pal is running
scared, and will be forever unless or until his fears become
reality. The miscreant's goal was to engage in amoral activity with
impunity, and now the miscreant lacks the stones to engage in that
activity at all. A complete breakage, plain and simple.
Post by Fred C Dobbs
Because he followed his own security suggestions!
Those "security suggestions" have not only been eviscerated time
and time again right here in these groups, they ultimately and
thoroughly failed to protect any of the people who were following
them. They simply did not work.

Sorry. You lose. :)
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2008-09-30 17:46:37 UTC
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Post by Fred C Dobbs
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Obviously not. The whole gang of miscreants was functioning under
the direction of essentially one person's plan, and that plan
failed miserably.
Post by Fred C Dobbs
Let me remind you, because you have a short memory for facts that don't fit
your world view, Yardbird aka Dr. Who was never apprehended!
Yet.

And since you're pretending to be all about facts today kiddo, what
makes your tiny little mind think being arrested is a singular
definition of failure anyway? Your nasty pedo-pal is running
scared, and will be forever unless or until his fears become
reality. The miscreant's goal was to engage in amoral activity with
impunity, and now the miscreant lacks the stones to engage in that
activity at all. A complete breakage, plain and simple.
Post by Fred C Dobbs
Because he followed his own security suggestions!
Those "security suggestions" have not only been eviscerated time
and time again right here in these groups, they ultimately and
thoroughly failed to protect any of the people who were following
them. They simply did not work.

Sorry. You lose. :)
George Orwell
2008-09-30 17:18:24 UTC
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Post by Fred C Dobbs
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Obviously not. The whole gang of miscreants was functioning under
the direction of essentially one person's plan, and that plan
failed miserably.
Post by Fred C Dobbs
Let me remind you, because you have a short memory for facts that don't fit
your world view, Yardbird aka Dr. Who was never apprehended!
Yet.

And since you're pretending to be all about facts today kiddo, what
makes your tiny little mind think being arrested is a singular
definition of failure anyway? Your nasty pedo-pal is running
scared, and will be forever unless or until his fears become
reality. The miscreant's goal was to engage in amoral activity with
impunity, and now the miscreant lacks the stones to engage in that
activity at all. A complete breakage, plain and simple.
Post by Fred C Dobbs
Because he followed his own security suggestions!
Those "security suggestions" have not only been eviscerated time
and time again right here in these groups, they ultimately and
thoroughly failed to protect any of the people who were following
them. They simply did not work.

Sorry. You lose. :)

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Kulin
2008-10-01 03:17:24 UTC
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DarkSide of Nightmix wrote in alt.privacy.anon-server on August 18, 2008
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Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.
Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.
Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.
Anyone with the IQ of a peanut or better and 30 seconds of free
time could figure out that there's no need to "juggle" anything.
PGP and GnuPG both have built in ways to deal with multiple
recipients simply and painlessly.
The REAL reason these pedofucks got nailed is they were plain old
stupid for taking the advice of an incompetent fools like Yardturd
and Doctor DiaperSniper.
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Let me remind you, because you have a short memory for facts that don't fit
your world view, Yardbird aka Dr. Who was never apprehended!
Because he followed his own security suggestions!
I'll reply to my post because all of the other replies just prove my point.

Despite all of the ad hominem attacks no one disproved my assertion that if
the 20 apprehended members of the "vast global conspiracy" followed Yardbird's
/Dr. Who's advice, they'd be as free as Yardbird/Dr. Who!

And for the person who remarked that "they haven't been caught yet", grow up!

LEA is off arresting other easy marks, they won't waste precious donut eating
time doing real work.
Kulin
2008-10-01 21:58:34 UTC
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DarkSide of Nightmix wrote in alt.privacy.anon-server on August 18, 2008
Post by DarkSide of Nightmix
Post by Baal
Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.
Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.
Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.
Anyone with the IQ of a peanut or better and 30 seconds of free
time could figure out that there's no need to "juggle" anything.
PGP and GnuPG both have built in ways to deal with multiple
recipients simply and painlessly.
The REAL reason these pedofucks got nailed is they were plain old
stupid for taking the advice of an incompetent fools like Yardturd
and Doctor DiaperSniper.
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Let me remind you, because you have a short memory for facts that don't fit
your world view, Yardbird aka Dr. Who was never apprehended!
Because he followed his own security suggestions!
I'll reply to my post because all of the other replies just prove my point.

Despite all of the ad hominem attacks no one disproved my assertion that if
the 20 apprehended members of the "vast global conspiracy" followed Yardbird's
/Dr. Who's advice, they'd be as free as Yardbird/Dr. Who!

And for the person who remarked that "they haven't been caught yet", grow up!

LEA is off arresting other easy marks, they won't waste precious donut eating
time doing real work.
Nomen Nescio
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Despite all of the ad hominem attacks no one disproved my assertion that if
the 20 apprehended members of the "vast global conspiracy" followed Yardbird's
/Dr. Who's advice, they'd be as free as Yardbird/Dr. Who!
They did follow Dr Who's faq and they were caught. Eggplant was in here
raving about Dr Who's faq and also privacy.li because Dr Who recommended
it, eggplant was caught. The same goes for the others, they did follow
that faq, they were caught, your assertion is bogus and hereby disproved.
Fred C Dobbs
2008-10-03 05:42:39 UTC
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Post by Kulin
Post by Kulin
Despite all of the ad hominem attacks no one disproved my assertion
that if
Post by Kulin
the 20 apprehended members of the "vast global conspiracy" followed
Yardbird's
Post by Kulin
/Dr. Who's advice, they'd be as free as Yardbird/Dr. Who!
They did follow Dr Who's faq and they were caught. Eggplant was in here
raving about Dr Who's faq and also privacy.li because Dr Who recommended
it, eggplant was caught. The same goes for the others, they did follow
that faq, they were caught, your assertion is bogus and hereby disproved.
No, they didn't follow the FAQ.

The first rule was trust no one.

One guy got busted and ratted out the others.

They made the mistake of trusting him and they got busted.

How do you explain that Yardbird/Dr.Who,who followed the FAQ,
wasn't busted?
Sparky
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Post by Fred C Dobbs
Post by Kulin
Post by Kulin
Despite all of the ad hominem attacks no one disproved my assertion
that if
Post by Kulin
the 20 apprehended members of the "vast global conspiracy" followed
Yardbird's
Post by Kulin
/Dr. Who's advice, they'd be as free as Yardbird/Dr. Who!
They did follow Dr Who's faq and they were caught. Eggplant was in here
raving about Dr Who's faq and also privacy.li because Dr Who recommended
it, eggplant was caught. The same goes for the others, they did follow
that faq, they were caught, your assertion is bogus and hereby disproved.
No, they didn't follow the FAQ.
The first rule was trust no one.
And yet... Yardbird's entire scheme was an elaborate mechanism to
establish trust, and the FAQ was a document published by someone who
repeatedly admitted they were no authority when it was convenient to do
so, but expected readers to trust their advice anyway.

*shrug*

The problem here isn't whether or not any particular point in any of it
was right or wrong so much as the entire "program" being one big
contradiction, and FUBAR to the core as a result. The notion that a
group should conduct sensitive business in the manner Yardbird laid out
is massively broken. There was zero need to form any sort of "clique"
in the first place. Indeed, it was that single fatal flaw that was
directly responsible for the group's demise. The trust you seem to
believe Yardbird denounced was gained, and turned 180 degrees on the
very people you seem to believe Yardbird and Who were protecting with
their bad advice.

This was all inevitable though. The sort of deranged mind that would
engage in that type of activity needs to be nurtured even if it's a
false sense thereof. That mentality begs for a "band of brothers" sense
of identity, almost certainly because those who exploit children
self-loathe so much. It was a foregone conclusion that they'd be taken
down as a collective at some point, if only for the simple fact that
they had an unnatural propensity to formally organize in the first
place.
Post by Fred C Dobbs
One guy got busted and ratted out the others.
Sorry, but no. An undercover agent infiltrated the group by surpassing
all the requirements Yardbird himself laid out to be included in the
group. That set the proverbial snowball to rolling, and I suspect it
hasn't stopped yet. :)
Post by Fred C Dobbs
They made the mistake of trusting him and they got busted.
They had no choice but to trust. It's what Yardbird prescribed in spite
of anything he or anyone else said to the contrary, and the "clan"
followed that premise apparently without question even though to a
clear head it's a blatant contradiction.

"Don't trust anyone, but here's the list of trustworthy members."

*chuckle*
Post by Fred C Dobbs
How do you explain that Yardbird/Dr.Who,who followed the FAQ,
wasn't busted?
Coincidence. Busting up criminal organizations almost never results in
the whole of the organization seeing the inside of a prison. It was
dumb luck, and little else, on both sides of the issue. Those who were
arrested, and those who were not. The investigation proceeded to the
point LE considered it time to move in, and the rest is history.

The point here isn't, however, that any single member of the
organization was caught or not. That organization and it's methods
failed in a real public way. They are no more, because of they way
they conducted business as much as the nature of the business they
conducted. It really is as simple as that.
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Post by Sparky
Post by Fred C Dobbs
Post by Nomen Nescio
They did follow Dr Who's faq and they were caught. Eggplant was in here
raving about Dr Who's faq and also privacy.li because Dr Who recommended
it, eggplant was caught. The same goes for the others, they did follow
that faq, they were caught, your assertion is bogus and hereby disproved.
No, they didn't follow the FAQ.
The first rule was trust no one.
And yet... Yardbird's entire scheme was an elaborate mechanism to
establish trust, and the FAQ was a document published by someone who
repeatedly admitted they were no authority when it was convenient to do
so, but expected readers to trust their advice anyway.
The problem here isn't whether or not any particular point in any of it
was right or wrong so much as the entire "program" being one big
contradiction, and FUBAR to the core as a result. The notion that a
group should conduct sensitive business in the manner Yardbird laid out
is massively broken. There was zero need to form any sort of "clique"
in the first place. Indeed, it was that single fatal flaw that was
directly responsible for the group's demise. The trust you seem to
believe Yardbird denounced was gained, and turned 180 degrees on the
very people you seem to believe Yardbird and Who were protecting with
their bad advice.
This was all inevitable though. The sort of deranged mind that would
engage in that type of activity needs to be nurtured even if it's a
false sense thereof. That mentality begs for a "band of brothers" sense
of identity, almost certainly because those who exploit children
self-loathe so much. It was a foregone conclusion that they'd be taken
down as a collective at some point, if only for the simple fact that
they had an unnatural propensity to formally organize in the first
place.
Does anyone have a copy of this FAQ? It would be interesting to read.
Fred C Dobbs
2008-10-05 02:27:30 UTC
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They did follow Dr Who's faq and they were caught. Eggplant was in here
raving about Dr Who's faq and also privacy.li because Dr Who recommended
it, eggplant was caught. The same goes for the others, they did follow
that faq, they were caught, your assertion is bogus and hereby disproved.
No, they didn't follow the FAQ.
The first rule was trust no one.
And yet... Yardbird's entire scheme was an elaborate mechanism to
establish trust, and the FAQ was a document published by someone who
repeatedly admitted they were no authority when it was convenient to do
so, but expected readers to trust their advice anyway.
The problem here isn't whether or not any particular point in any of it
was right or wrong so much as the entire "program" being one big
contradiction, and FUBAR to the core as a result. The notion that a
group should conduct sensitive business in the manner Yardbird laid out
is massively broken. There was zero need to form any sort of "clique"
in the first place. Indeed, it was that single fatal flaw that was
directly responsible for the group's demise. The trust you seem to
believe Yardbird denounced was gained, and turned 180 degrees on the
very people you seem to believe Yardbird and Who were protecting with
their bad advice.
This was all inevitable though. The sort of deranged mind that would
engage in that type of activity needs to be nurtured even if it's a
false sense thereof. That mentality begs for a "band of brothers" sense
of identity, almost certainly because those who exploit children
self-loathe so much. It was a foregone conclusion that they'd be taken
down as a collective at some point, if only for the simple fact that
they had an unnatural propensity to formally organize in the first
place.
Does anyone have a copy of this FAQ? It would be interesting to read.
It was posted in alt.fan.yardbird a while back.
Nomen Nescio
2008-10-05 02:50:05 UTC
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Post by Kulin
Despite all of the ad hominem attacks no one disproved my assertion
that if
Post by Kulin
the 20 apprehended members of the "vast global conspiracy" followed
Yardbird's
Post by Kulin
/Dr. Who's advice, they'd be as free as Yardbird/Dr. Who!
They did follow Dr Who's faq and they were caught. Eggplant was in here
raving about Dr Who's faq and also privacy.li because Dr Who recommended
it, eggplant was caught. The same goes for the others, they did follow
that faq, they were caught, your assertion is bogus and hereby disproved.
No, they didn't follow the FAQ.
The first rule was trust no one.
And yet... Yardbird's entire scheme was an elaborate mechanism to
establish trust, and the FAQ was a document published by someone who
repeatedly admitted they were no authority when it was convenient to do
so, but expected readers to trust their advice anyway.
No it wasn't!

He establishe an anonymous trading scheme, no trust needed.
The defendants didn't follow the rules and got caught.

<guffaw> like a Hatian taking your three inches up his HIV+ ass!
Post by Fred C Dobbs
How do you explain that Yardbird/Dr.Who,who followed the FAQ,
wasn't busted?
Coincidence.
How do you explain the economic meltdown and GW Bush's Presidency?

Coincidence?

You're a fucking complete moron, congratulations!
Sparky
2008-10-05 11:19:13 UTC
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Post by Fred C Dobbs
No, they didn't follow the FAQ.
The first rule was trust no one.
And yet... Yardbird's entire scheme was an elaborate mechanism to
establish trust, and the FAQ was a document published by someone who
repeatedly admitted they were no authority when it was convenient to do
so, but expected readers to trust their advice anyway.
No it wasn't!
He establishe an anonymous trading scheme, no trust needed.
False. Nobody in Yardbird's "crew" was anonymous, and none of them were
included in that group without first establishing trust. They were in
*fact* brought down by a compromise of the protocols used to establish
that trust. That's all been well documented.

By all means please feel free to look up the definitions of terms like
anonymous, pseudonymous, trust, and authentication, at your earliest
convenience. Familiarizing yourself with the basics will help us avoid
wasting time trying to explain concepts that participants in privacy
and security forums really should already have at least a rudimentary
understanding of.

You may want also, to contemplate the folly of letting your unnatural
infatuations rule your thought processes so thoroughly they taint
everything you post. It demolishes any anonymity truly anonymous
channels afford you.

<anally fixated blubbering discarded>

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Post by Baal
Mr. Townsville confirmed the existence of the group, and handed-over both
halves of the group's PGP keypair, allowing police to decrypt all postings
made to members of the group.
This doesn't sound logical. Did he have their private keys also?
Once one was accepted for 'membership' in the group, Nagaru sent the group
keypair to the new member. This keypair consisted of /both/ the public- and
private-halves of that PGP key.
Traffic meant for the group as a whole was encrypted to this public key--as
everyone who was a member of the group had a copy of the private-half of
the key, they could decrypt all messages encrypted with it.
Now, this made sense from a key-management point of view--the alternative
was to have to juggle dozens of keys.
Anyone with the IQ of a peanut or better and 30 seconds of free
time could figure out that there's no need to "juggle" anything.
PGP and GnuPG both have built in ways to deal with multiple
recipients simply and painlessly.
The REAL reason these pedofucks got nailed is they were plain old
stupid for taking the advice of an incompetent fools like Yardturd
and Doctor DiaperSniper.
Don't you mean "they were plain old stupid for NOT taking the advice of
Yardbird, aka Doctor Who"?
Let me remind you, because you have a short memory for facts that don't fit
your world view, Yardbird aka Dr. Who was never apprehended!
Because he followed his own security suggestions!
I'll reply to my post because all of the other replies just prove my point.
Despite all of the ad hominem attacks no one disproved my assertion that if
the 20 apprehended members of the "vast global conspiracy" followed Yardbird's
/Dr. Who's advice, they'd be as free as Yardbird/Dr. Who!
Bullshit. They WERE following the incompetent asshole's plan and
the whole thing blew up in their faces. Can't you fucking read? The
filthy bastards were taken down by someone who used their own
"security" against them. Became a trusted member of the conspiracy
by meeting all the criteria Yardturd told them would keep them safe.

LOL!
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And for the person who remarked that "they haven't been caught yet", grow up!
LEA is off arresting other easy marks, they won't waste precious donut eating
time doing real work.
Well now we know exactly what your agenda is pedofuck.
Roger
2008-08-15 08:32:51 UTC
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http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/August/08-crm-722.html
"Erik Raymond Wayerski [Lerch], 46, of Leander, Texas, pleaded
guilty today to charges related to his involvement in a vast global
child pornography trafficking enterprise, Acting Assistant Attorney
General Matthew Friedrich of the Criminal Division, Acting U.S.
Attorney for the Northern District of Florida Thomas F. Kirwin and
FBI Executive Assistant Director J. Stephen Tidwell announced.
"Wayerski faces a minimum prison sentence of 20 years and a maximum
of life in prison, in addition to statutory fines. He will be
sentenced following the trial of the remaining defendants in 2009.
"Trial for the remaining defendants is scheduled to begin Jan. 5,
2009, in Pensacola, Fla., before Senior U.S. District Judge Lacey
A. Collier."\
Glad to see that Eggplant is making them work for his time. GO EGGY!

Roger
Nomen Nescio
2008-08-15 15:00:07 UTC
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Glad to see that Eggplant is making them work for his time. GO EGGY!
Roger
Yeah. Go. Eggy.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Anonymous
2008-08-17 21:07:07 UTC
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That is good news, on both accounts.
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