WTF?

[Anonymous Remailer (austria)]

This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<***@remailer.privacy.at>: host remailer.privacy.at[212.124.141.99] said:
554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [191.101.251.181]
blocked using
sbl.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS (in
reply to
RCPT TO command)

[Anonymous]

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [191.101.251.181]
blocked using
sbl.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS (in
reply to
RCPT TO command)

You can thank the AUK sporger for that. There aren't many of
those cunts left. Shouldn't be any problem to hunt one of them
down and cut their throat just for the fuck of it.

[Cornelis Tromp]

In article

Post by Anonymous
You can thank the AUK sporger for that. There aren't many of
those cunts left. Shouldn't be any problem to hunt one of them
down and cut their throat just for the fuck of it.

Something for you to do this weekend in your spare time. Hop to
it.

[SEC3]

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be
delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete
your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
remailer.privacy.at[212.124.141.99] said: 554 5.7.1 Service
unavailable; Client host [191.101.251.181] blocked using
sbl.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS (in
reply to RCPT TO command)

I operate a Tor hidden service at that IP (191.101.251.181)

This is the first I've heard that it is listed in the Spamhaus blocklist.

The hidden service only accepts messages bound for remailer addresses.
Most remailers do not subscribe to Spamhaus. But Austria Remailer is one
of the few that does.

The Tor service receives very little traffic. Less than 2 dozen hits per
day. So I doubt that it is the culprit for the Spamhaus listing.
Nevertheless this is bad news. For the moment I would urger remailer
users to avoid the hidden service at

sopoccfrkrpuiin5.onion:2525

as it will be unreliable. I will see if I can get my IP delisted. But
don't hold your breath.


SEC3 Pinger Admin
Contact information at <https://sec3.net>

[Anonymous Remailer (austria)]

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Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be
delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete
your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
remailer.privacy.at[212.124.141.99] said: 554 5.7.1 Service
unavailable; Client host [191.101.251.181] blocked using
sbl.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS (in
reply to RCPT TO command)

I operate a Tor hidden service at that IP (191.101.251.181)
This is the first I've heard that it is listed in the Spamhaus blocklist.
The hidden service only accepts messages bound for remailer addresses.
Most remailers do not subscribe to Spamhaus. But Austria Remailer is one
of the few that does.

No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

[unknown]

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)

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Hash: SHA512

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be
delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete
your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
remailer.privacy.at[212.124.141.99] said: 554 5.7.1 Service
unavailable; Client host [191.101.251.181] blocked using
sbl.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS (in
reply to RCPT TO command)

I operate a Tor hidden service at that IP (191.101.251.181)
This is the first I've heard that it is listed in the Spamhaus blocklist.
The hidden service only accepts messages bound for remailer addresses.
Most remailers do not subscribe to Spamhaus. But Austria Remailer is one
of the few that does.

No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

Test to see id dizum will no longer work as they use those blacklists also.

[Anonymous Remailer (austria)]

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)

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Hash: SHA512

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be
delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete
your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
remailer.privacy.at[212.124.141.99] said: 554 5.7.1 Service
unavailable; Client host [191.101.251.181] blocked using
sbl.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS (in
reply to RCPT TO command)

I operate a Tor hidden service at that IP (191.101.251.181)
This is the first I've heard that it is listed in the Spamhaus blocklist.
The hidden service only accepts messages bound for remailer addresses.
Most remailers do not subscribe to Spamhaus. But Austria Remailer is one
of the few that does.

No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

Pointless. Just increase the chain / copies and keep sending.

[Anonymous]

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Hash: SHA512

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be
delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete
your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
remailer.privacy.at[212.124.141.99] said: 554 5.7.1 Service
unavailable; Client host [191.101.251.181] blocked using
sbl.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS (in
reply to RCPT TO command)

I operate a Tor hidden service at that IP (191.101.251.181)
This is the first I've heard that it is listed in the Spamhaus blocklist.
The hidden service only accepts messages bound for remailer addresses.
Most remailers do not subscribe to Spamhaus. But Austria Remailer is one
of the few that does.

No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

[Nathan Hale]

In article

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

why don't you cut off your nose to spite your face while you're
at it?

barring the remailer won't make any difference even if you're
one of those anal-retentive control freaks who believes they can
manipulate every hop of a message on an anonymous remailer
network.

got news for you, you can't.

send the messages, they will get through. it matters naught
what spamhaus does.

[SEC3]

Post by Nathan Hale
send the messages, they will get through.

Sometimes they will get through.

Aug 17 18:09:46 lacquer postfix/onion-smtpd/smtpd[15786]: connect from
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Aug 17 18:09:49 lacquer postfix/onion-smtpd/smtpd[15786]: 3242133E7FA:
client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Aug 17 18:09:51 lacquer postfix/cleanup[15788]: 3242133E7FA:
message-id=<***@mail.cloaked.pw>
Aug 17 18:09:52 lacquer postfix/qmgr[463]: 3242133E7FA:
from=<***@anon.com>, size=29158, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Aug 17 18:09:53 lacquer postfix/onion-smtpd/smtpd[15786]: disconnect
from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Aug 17 18:09:57 lacquer postfix/smtp[15789]: Untrusted TLS connection
established to roxy.roance.net[87.239.249.12]:25: TLSv1.2 with cipher
ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)
Aug 17 18:09:58 lacquer postfix/smtp[15789]: 3242133E7FA:
to=<***@roance.net>, relay=roxy.roance.net[87.239.249.12]:25,
delay=9.7, delays=3.6/0/5.9/0.16, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok:
queued as 006472803D5)
Aug 17 18:09:58 lacquer postfix/qmgr[463]: 3242133E7FA: removed

But many times they won't. Here is an example. Anon Remailer's ISP, who
subscribes to the Spamhaus blocklist, has refused to accept the email
send from lacquer that's the hostname of my Tor Hidden service.

Aug 17 16:33:14 lacquer postfix/onion-smtpd/smtpd[15650]: connect from
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Aug 17 16:33:17 lacquer postfix/onion-smtpd/smtpd[15650]: Anonymous TLS
connection established from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]: TLSv1.2
with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)
Aug 17 16:33:19 lacquer postfix/onion-smtpd/smtpd[15650]: 50E1D33E6A4:
client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Aug 17 16:33:20 lacquer postfix/cleanup[15653]: 50E1D33E6A4:
message-id=<***@mail.cloaked.pw>
Aug 17 16:33:22 lacquer postfix/qmgr[463]: 50E1D33E6A4:
from=<***@verizon.net>, size=29271, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Aug 17 16:33:24 lacquer postfix/onion-smtpd/smtpd[15650]: disconnect
from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Aug 17 16:33:30 lacquer postfix/smtp[15654]: Untrusted TLS connection
established to anonusa.net[192.232.251.218]:25: TLSv1.2 with cipher
ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)
Aug 17 16:33:35 lacquer postfix/smtp[15654]: 50E1D33E6A4:
to=<***@anonusa.net>, relay=anonusa.net[192.232.251.218]:25, delay=17,
delays=3.6/0.01/7.7/5.4, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
anonusa.net[192.232.251.218] said: 550-"JunkMail rejected -
mail.cloaked.pw [191.101.251.181]:36976 is in an RBL 550-on
rbl.websitewelcome.com, see Blocked - see 550
http://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/191.101.251.181/32" (in reply to RCPT
TO command))
Aug 17 16:33:35 lacquer postfix/bounce[15655]: 50E1D33E6A4: sender
non-delivery notification: 8C89D33E7FE
Aug 17 16:33:35 lacquer postfix/qmgr[463]: 50E1D33E6A4: removed

And then my server generates backscatter, i.e. a non-delivery
notification gets emailed to the original sender (this one was an AOL
user). And AOL, won't accept the non-delivery notification because of
corse it too subscribes to Spamhaus!

Aug 17 16:33:35 lacquer postfix/smtp[15654]: 8C89D33E7FE: host
mailin-03.mx.aol.com[152.163.0.100] refused to talk to me: 554- (RTR:BL)
https://postmaster.aol.com/error-codes#554rtrbl 554 Connecting IP:
191.101.251.181
Aug 17 16:33:36 lacquer postfix/smtp[15654]: 8C89D33E7FE: host
mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.88.132] refused to talk to me: 554- (RTR:BL)
https://postmaster.aol.com/error-codes#554rtrbl 554 Connecting IP:
191.101.251.181
Aug 17 16:33:36 lacquer postfix/smtp[15654]: 8C89D33E7FE: host
mailin-02.mx.aol.com[64.12.91.195] refused to talk to me: 554- (RTR:BL)
https://postmaster.aol.com/error-codes#554rtrbl 554 Connecting IP:
191.101.251.181
Aug 17 16:33:36 lacquer postfix/smtp[15654]: 8C89D33E7FE: host
mailin-02.mx.aol.com[152.163.0.99] refused to talk to me: 554- (RTR:BL)
https://postmaster.aol.com/error-codes#554rtrbl 554 Connecting IP:
191.101.251.181
Aug 17 16:34:06 lacquer postfix/smtp[15654]: connect to
mailin-01.mx.aol.com[152.163.0.99]:25: Connection timed out
Aug 17 16:34:06 lacquer postfix/smtp[15654]: 8C89D33E7FE:
to=<***@verizon.net>, relay=none, delay=31, delays=0/0/31/0,
dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to
mailin-01.mx.aol.com[152.163.0.99]:25: Connection timed out)

This is called backscatter. I get a "bad reputation" for spitting out
backscatter and end up on *more* RBLs.

Post by Nathan Hale
it matters naught what spamhaus does.

I disagree. My server is badly crippled by being listed in spamhaus. I
would not recommend using it.



SEC3 Pinger Admin
Contact information at <https://sec3.net>

[Fritz Wuehler]

Post by SEC3

Post by Nathan Hale
it matters naught what spamhaus does.

I disagree. My server is badly crippled by being listed in spamhaus. I
would not recommend using it.

Say what?

https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/191.101.251.181

Blocklist Removal Center
Blocklist Documents

SBL FAQs
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PBL FAQs
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191.101.251.181 is not listed in the SBL
191.101.251.181 is not listed in the PBL
191.101.251.181 is not listed in the XBL

Blacklist Reason TTL ResponseTime
OK Abuse.ro 182
OK Anonmails DNSBL 188
OK ASPEWS 840
OK BACKSCATTERER 38
OK BARRACUDA 59
OK BBFHL1 842
OK BBFHL2 841
OK BLOCKLIST.DE 48
OK BSB 58
OK CALIVENT 48
OK CASA CBL 37
OK CASA CDL 41
OK CBL 262
OK CYMRU BOGONS 43
OK DAN TOR 136
OK DAN TOREXIT 137
OK DNS Realtime Blackhole List 53
OK DNS SERVICIOS 147
OK DRMX 296
OK DRONE BL 157
OK DULRU 184
OK FABELSOURCES 61
OK HIL 75
OK HIL2 75
OK IBM DNS Blacklist 146
OK ICMFORBIDDEN 150
OK IMP SPAM 38
OK IMP WORM 38
OK INPS_DE 82
OK INTERSERVER 54
OK IPrange RBL Project 141
OK ivmSIP 38
OK ivmSIP24 39
OK JIPPG 221
OK KEMPTBL 47
OK KISA 283
OK Konstant 124
OK LASHBACK 39
OK LNSGBLOCK 49
OK LNSGBULK 49
OK LNSGMULTI 49
OK LNSGOR 48
OK LNSGSRC 54
OK MADAVI 144
OK MailBlacklist 38
OK MAILSPIKE BL 124
OK MAILSPIKE Z 118
OK MSRBL Spam 131
OK NETHERUNSURE 48
OK ORVEDB 187
OK OSPAM 81
OK PSBL 38
OK RATS Dyna 58
OK RATS NoPtr 57
OK RATS Spam 56
OK RBL JP 55
OK RSBL 188
OK SCHULTE 83
OK SECTOOR EXITNODES 67
OK SEM BACKSCATTER 83
OK SEM BLACK 83
OK Sender Score Reputation Network 39
OK SERVICESNET 65
OK SORBS BLOCK 39
OK SORBS DUHL 38
OK SORBS HTTP 39
OK SORBS MISC 38
OK SORBS NEW 38
OK SORBS SMTP 39
OK SORBS SOCKS 38
OK SORBS SPAM 38
OK SORBS WEB 38
OK SORBS ZOMBIE 38
OK SPAMCANNIBAL 38
OK SPAMCOP 38
OK Spamhaus ZEN 38
OK SPEWS1 847
OK SPEWS2 846
OK Suomispam Reputation 142
OK SWINOG 38
OK TRIUMF 45
OK TRUNCATE 37
OK UCEPROTECTL1 38
OK UCEPROTECTL2 38
OK UCEPROTECTL3 38
OK VIRBL 142
OK Woodys SMTP Blacklist 37
OK WPBL 43
OK ZapBL 131
TIMEOUT MSRBL Phishing 0 Ignore
TIMEOUT NIXSPAM 0 Ignore

[SEC3]

Post by Fritz Wuehler

Post by SEC3

Post by Nathan Hale
it matters naught what spamhaus does.

I disagree. My server is badly crippled by being listed in
spamhaus. I would not recommend using it.

Say what?
https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/191.101.251.181
Blocklist Removal Center Blocklist Documents
SBL FAQs XBL FAQs PBL FAQs DBL FAQs How Blocklists Work Lookup
another address Blocklist Lookup Results
191.101.251.181 is not listed in the SBL 191.101.251.181 is not
listed in the PBL 191.101.251.181 is not listed in the XBL

Yes, you're right! Between yesterday and today my IP address was
de-listed. Good news!

SEC3 Pinger Admin
Contact information at <https://sec3.net>

[Nathan Hale]

Post by SEC3
I disagree. My server is badly crippled by being listed in spamhaus. I
would not recommend using it.

Get your IP changed.

[Nomen Nescio]

Post by Cornelis Tromp
In article

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

why don't you cut off your nose to spite your face while you're
at it?
barring the remailer won't make any difference even if you're
one of those anal-retentive control freaks who believes they can
manipulate every hop of a message on an anonymous remailer
network.
got news for you, you can't.
send the messages, they will get through. it matters naught
what spamhaus does.

For a middle-only remailer like lisbeth or roance that shouldn't matter.
If forwarding of the remailer packet is blocked by the packet's remailer
destination that entity is misconfigured, which is not within the scope
of the sender's responsibility.

[Fritz Wuehler]

In article

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

why don't you cut off your nose to spite your face while you're
at it?

barring the remailer won't make any difference even if you're
one of those anal-retentive control freaks who believes they can
manipulate every hop of a message on an anonymous remailer
network.

got news for you, you can't.

send the messages, they will get through. it matters naught
what spamhaus does.

[Nomen Nescio]

Post by Cornelis Tromp
In article

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

why don't you cut off your nose to spite your face while you're
at it?

Yawn.

Post by Cornelis Tromp
barring the remailer won't make any difference

Sure it will, I won't get any more bounce messages. Why would you want
to send an email that you know will bounce?

[Anonymous]

Post by Nomen Nescio

Post by Cornelis Tromp
In article

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

why don't you cut off your nose to spite your face while you're
at it?

Yawn.

Post by Cornelis Tromp
barring the remailer won't make any difference

Sure it will, I won't get any more bounce messages. Why would you want
to send an email that you know will bounce?

I've never seen a bounced email from a remailer.

Post the complete headers from the bounce so we can see what it
looks like.

[Nathan Hale]

Post by Anonymous

Post by Nomen Nescio

Post by Cornelis Tromp
In article

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

why don't you cut off your nose to spite your face while you're
at it?

Yawn.

Post by Cornelis Tromp
barring the remailer won't make any difference

Sure it will, I won't get any more bounce messages. Why would you want
to send an email that you know will bounce?

I've never seen a bounced email from a remailer.
Post the complete headers from the bounce so we can see what it
looks like.

I don't have any bounced emails right now, but here's what I posted
that started this thread:

This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<***@remailer.privacy.at>: host remailer.privacy.at[212.124.141.99] said:
554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [191.101.251.181]
blocked using
sbl.spamhaus.org; https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBLCSS (in
reply to
RCPT TO command)

[Nathan Hale]

Post by Anonymous

Post by Nomen Nescio

Post by Cornelis Tromp
In article

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

why don't you cut off your nose to spite your face while you're
at it?

Yawn.

Post by Cornelis Tromp
barring the remailer won't make any difference

Sure it will, I won't get any more bounce messages. Why would you want
to send an email that you know will bounce?

I've never seen a bounced email from a remailer.
Post the complete headers from the bounce so we can see what it
looks like.

Here you go, just got this today.

Delivered-To: *@gmail.com
Received: by 10.31.108.199 with SMTP id j68csp2666480vki;
Sat, 19 Aug 2017 15:52:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 10.80.131.135 with SMTP id
7mr8498214edi.35.1503183154374;
Sat, 19 Aug 2017 15:52:34 -0700 (PDT)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1503183154; cv=none;
d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;

b=qWt//T05/6HXtvER5DIogXLULDRN+rdY+kB6ElwETDK49d+1BuJ6vL9f1zXUyRWfIX
[redacted]

N5KxWH1Sqn1x7heFv6X4BtIwciaiKDl7VuJtEiO+SMU2qfyhqsStp3gOYE+al4QsXK4u

2OiFPYS6lXvyzMNrMr3YfT63d27wU4IRDN4yGx9rhPYV6QutmB37jTRnHQsHRR14uJoz
uzkw==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=google.com; s=arc-20160816;
h=message-id:mime-version:auto-submitted:to:subject:from:date
:arc-authentication-results;
bh=msyyg60naHspSkeZOOdzGVUuMZc/ryMQ9udhgdvvXZU=;

b=EzNLjZTkc0OinYz/UrsTn+z706GAZxkBTXCIXnhbJBR2AfJu6cqMDIw9VLVF4imSY8
[redacted]

QWR864ahQFoIXmRF6koE/xjXDJ/3ZGudz3LBUW0jblOp5qnVnLuXomJJHbiRy5/QIktU

uj3QKq0A+uXE1SKxjQvEkJEl8g+XB2OL2+QCmN9zpK6UiISMjoaI1dXvgnJggaJxnaJM
9qPQ==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of
***@mail.cloaked.pw designates 191.101.251.181 as permitted
sender) smtp.helo=mail.cloaked.pw
Return-Path: <>
Received: from mail.cloaked.pw (mail.cloaked.pw. [191.101.251.181])
by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
u11si8544925eda.521.2017.08.19.15.52.33
for <*@gmail.com>
(version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256
bits=128/128);
Sat, 19 Aug 2017 15:52:33 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of
***@mail.cloaked.pw designates 191.101.251.181 as permitted
sender) client-ip=191.101.251.181;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of
***@mail.cloaked.pw designates 191.101.251.181 as permitted
sender) smtp.helo=mail.cloaked.pw
Received: by mail.cloaked.pw (Postfix) id 466DC33E93A; Sat, 19 Aug 2017
18:52:33 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:52:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-***@cloaked.pw>
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
To: *@gmail.com
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
boundary="5553C33E6DF.1503183153/mail.cloaked.pw"
Message-Id: <***@mail.cloaked.pw>

--5553C33E6DF.1503183153/mail.cloaked.pw
Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<***@anonusa.net>: host anonusa.net[192.232.251.218] said: 550-"JunkMail
rejected - mail.cloaked.pw [191.101.251.181]:49825 is in an RBL 550
on
csi.websitewelcome.com, see Poor Reputation Sender" (in reply to
RCPT TO
command)

--5553C33E6DF.1503183153/mail.cloaked.pw
Content-Description: Delivery report
Content-Type: message/delivery-status


--5553C33E6DF.1503183153/mail.cloaked.pw
Content-Description: Undelivered Message
Content-Type: message/rfc822

Return-Path: <*@gmail.com>
Received: from anonymous.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cloaked.pw (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5553C33E6DF for <***@anonusa.net>; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:52:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: *@gmail.com
To: ***@anonusa.net
Message-Id: <***@mail.cloaked.pw>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:52:16 -0400 (EDT)

[SEC3]

Post by Nathan Hale

Post by Anonymous
I've never seen a bounced email from a remailer.
Post the complete headers from the bounce so we can see what it
looks like.

Here you go, just got this today.
Received: by 10.31.108.199 with SMTP id j68csp2666480vki;
Sat, 19 Aug 2017 15:52:34 -0700 (PDT)

<snip>

Post by Nathan Hale
This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

<snip>

Post by Nathan Hale
Received: from anonymous.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2

<snip>



Some clarification:

1. This bounce DID NOT come from a remailer. There is no remailer at
lacquer.cloaked.pw (191.101.251.181). Only a Tor service on port 2525.

2. The bounce would not have been generated and then delivered to Gmail
had it not been for a SpamhausRBL listing of 191.101.251.181.

3. The Spamhaus RBL listing of 191.101.251.181 doesn't exist anymore.
(Aug 20 2017).


SEC3 Pinger Admin
Contact information at <https://sec3.net>

[Nomen Nescio]

Post by SEC3

Post by Nathan Hale

Post by Anonymous
I've never seen a bounced email from a remailer.
Post the complete headers from the bounce so we can see what it
looks like.

Here you go, just got this today.
Received: by 10.31.108.199 with SMTP id j68csp2666480vki;
Sat, 19 Aug 2017 15:52:34 -0700 (PDT)

<snip>

Post by Nathan Hale
This is the mail system at host mail.cloaked.pw.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

<snip>

Post by Nathan Hale
Received: from anonymous.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2

<snip>
1. This bounce DID NOT come from a remailer. There is no remailer at
lacquer.cloaked.pw (191.101.251.181). Only a Tor service on port 2525.
2. The bounce would not have been generated and then delivered to Gmail
had it not been for a SpamhausRBL listing of 191.101.251.181.
3. The Spamhaus RBL listing of 191.101.251.181 doesn't exist anymore.
(Aug 20 2017).
SEC3 Pinger Admin
Contact information at <https://sec3.net>

I understand completely. Someone wanted to see the full headers of a
bounce, so I posted them. Good news on the spamhaus removal.

[Fritz Wuehler]

Post by Nomen Nescio
Sure it will, I won't get any more bounce messages. Why would you want
to send an email that you know will bounce?

If you're getting bounced emails, you aren't anonymous and it's
pointless to be using a remailer service.

[Nomen Nescio]

Post by Fritz Wuehler

Post by Nomen Nescio
Sure it will, I won't get any more bounce messages. Why would you want
to send an email that you know will bounce?

If you're getting bounced emails, you aren't anonymous and it's
pointless to be using a remailer service.

Anonymous enough, as the bounces wind up at a throwaway Gmail address
that was created via Tor and only accessed via Tor.

[Anonymous Remailer (austria)]

In article

Post by Cornelis Tromp
In article

Post by Anonymous Remailer (austria)
No problem, I'll just bar Austria in QSL.

why don't you cut off your nose to spite your face while you're
at it?
barring the remailer won't make any difference even if you're
one of those anal-retentive control freaks who believes they can
manipulate every hop of a message on an anonymous remailer
network.
got news for you, you can't.
send the messages, they will get through. it matters naught
what spamhaus does.

Dickhead